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Old 09-23-2009, 11:48 AM   #1
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Observations on Slackware 13.0


Hi folks. I've been a user of Slackware for about fifteen years. Just keeps getting better and better. However I have noted a few minor and not-so-minor problems with Slackware 13.0 64-bit.

First, using KDE, I like to move the panel to the left and have it autohide. With Slack 13.0 it doesn't seem to want to autohide when I start up KDE. I have to go to 'panel options/panel settings' and then close to get autohide to begin. A bit irritating but not catastrophic. Don't know if this is a KDE problem or a Slackware problem.

Second, when I start up KDE and use it for a bit I often get a 'Maximum number of clients reached' error. The max clients in X11 is 128 .. no way do I have that many open. This is a bit more serious since I have to shut down X and start up again in order to get going. This happens only on my desktop, not on my laptop (both 64-bit).

Third, when starting KDE on either the desktop or laptop I have problems with the 'Akonadi' server not starting. I don't know what this is but it doesn't seem to be causing me any problems so far. It is a bit irritating however. Maybe this could be looked into for the next Slackware version?

At first I was alarmed to see that KDE 4.2.2 was being used and it took some time to get used to. Now, however I find it as useful and as configurable as KDE 3.5 was.

Cheers.
 
Old 09-23-2009, 12:42 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by thirteen_engines View Post
First, using KDE, I like to move the panel to the left and have it autohide. With Slack 13.0 it doesn't seem to want to autohide when I start up KDE. I have to go to 'panel options/panel settings' and then close to get autohide to begin. A bit irritating but not catastrophic. Don't know if this is a KDE problem or a Slackware problem.
This is a KDE problem. I have a similar issue, and that is that the panel does not stretch to the full width of the screen even if I tell it to. I use more than one resolution for my KDE sessions (local monitor's screen resolution is bigger than when I do a remote login) and I have to fix the panel regularly. I hope this gets solved in a future KDE4 release.

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Second, when I start up KDE and use it for a bit I often get a 'Maximum number of clients reached' error. The max clients in X11 is 128 .. no way do I have that many open. This is a bit more serious since I have to shut down X and start up again in order to get going. This happens only on my desktop, not on my laptop (both 64-bit).
Please check your log files (/var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages) to find if there are any hal/dbus related reported there.

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Third, when starting KDE on either the desktop or laptop I have problems with the 'Akonadi' server not starting. I don't know what this is but it doesn't seem to be causing me any problems so far. It is a bit irritating however. Maybe this could be looked into for the next Slackware version?
Akonadi relies on the presence of the mysql package. Perhaps you did not install this?


Eric
 
Old 09-23-2009, 02:29 PM   #3
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Thanks Bob. I "tail -f'd" both syslog and Xorg.0.log. Maybe I'll see something there that gives a bit of a clue about what's happening.

As far as mysql is concerned, I did install it but when I try to start it manually using rc.mysqld it stops. I guess if I can fix this it will start. Funny that it wasn't set up to start upon installation.
 
Old 09-23-2009, 02:33 PM   #4
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The mysql daemon does not need to be running, the mysql package (binaries, libraries) needs to be installed is all.

If you would want to have the mysql daemon running, you should read the header of that file /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld and follow the instructions you find there...

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Old 09-23-2009, 02:41 PM   #5
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Hi folks. Third, when starting KDE on either the desktop or laptop I have problems with the 'Akonadi' server not starting. I don't know what this is but it doesn't seem to be causing me any problems so far. It is a bit irritating however. Maybe this could be looked into for the next Slackware version?
Cheers.

It might be due to log in as root? for me it gives an error of dbus

greetings
 
Old 09-23-2009, 07:42 PM   #6
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I hope this gets solved in a future KDE4 release.
Me too! As I have been building my HTPC I have been alternating the box between my 37 inch HD TV (1920 x 1080) in the living room and a 19 inch Acer 1680 x 1050 monitor in my office. Every time I swap between the two, the panel automatically resizes. I always have to manually resize the panel using the grabber handles, which is a three-step process. To add salt to the irritating wound, Konqueror resizes too and always to a size that befits a 640 x 480 resolution. Saving the profile does not seem to help.
 
Old 09-23-2009, 11:56 PM   #7
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Third, when starting KDE on either the desktop or laptop I have problems with the 'Akonadi' server not starting. I don't know what this is but it doesn't seem to be causing me any problems so far. It is a bit irritating however. Maybe this could be looked into for the next Slackware version?
Cheers.
Hi! Here's decision that worked for me:

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I had that problem in the "root" account but not a normal user account. I solved the problem for "root" by editing a file. The file is under ".local" (that has a dot in front and is hidden). You have to turn on the option to show hidden files in order to see ".local".

The file that I edited for root is this one.

/root/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf

Immediately following the line with "[mysqld]" add this line.

user=root

Log in to the root account a few times. I think that I had to let it rebuild the database but it eventually was able to start up Akonadi.

If you have problems with other user accounts I recommend that you rename the "akonadi" folder to "akonadi.old" under ".local/share". If that fixes the problem then you can eventually delete "akonadi.old".
Watching at the Akonadi error message was the very first experience with KDE4 for me. And that really really got me down. But then I realized there's no errors for non-root logins. And I felt much better! Is it a psychological trick to make people not to log in as root? .

I liked KDE4 after two days of right-clicking on every GUI feature. Although it was quite hard to understand the logic of some new features. I've switched desktop to "folder view" and still can't find the use of "desktop view".

I have strange issues with logout (Ctrl+Alt+Del) dialog which can unexpectedly change the aspect ratio to 1:1 while missing the "moon picture" and recover it some minutes later. I'm not sure, but it seems like some random changes in "KDE Appearance Settings" may restore the said aspect ratio.

Another one problem - I can't use
Code:
kdesu dolphin
. It prompts the root's password and opens dolphin. But you can't navigate to any folder.

It looks strange for kdesu works fine with kwrite and kate.

Last edited by and_ru; 09-23-2009 at 11:57 PM.
 
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Old 09-24-2009, 04:12 AM   #8
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@ and_ru

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I've switched desktop to "folder view" and still can't find the use of "desktop view".
Switch back to the "desktop view" and add the widget "folder view" directly on the desktop instead, this also gives you back the option to leave session when you right-click on the desktop.

Last edited by jannekrille; 09-24-2009 at 04:15 AM. Reason: grammar...
 
Old 09-25-2009, 08:30 AM   #9
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The mysql daemon does not need to be running, the mysql package (binaries, libraries) needs to be installed is all.

If you would want to have the mysql daemon running, you should read the header of that file /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld and follow the instructions you find there...

Eric
Hmm... Are you sure? I have not managed running Akonadi w/o mysqld
 
Old 09-25-2009, 12:23 PM   #10
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I believe the reason why Akonadi complains when one is logged in as root is because of the mysqld configuration file it uses when KDE is started. I do not have the location of this file off the top of my head, but somewhere inside that file exists a line that prevents mysqld from running as root. Comment that line out or run as user to prevent...
 
Old 09-25-2009, 04:16 PM   #11
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and_ru:
Another one problem - I can't use "kdesu dolphin".

Use:
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kdesu dbus-launch dolphin
instead.
Regards,
Bill
 
Old 09-26-2009, 03:29 AM   #12
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and_ru:
Another one problem - I can't use "kdesu dolphin".

Use:
instead.
Regards,
Bill
Thanks!
Is it specific only for Dolphin? Why other apps I've tried did not complain?
 
Old 09-26-2009, 03:54 AM   #13
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Hmm... Are you sure? I have not managed running Akonadi w/o mysqld
My MySQL is not running (it's not even executable) but Akonadi's running fine.

BTW I heard some folks who don't need or like big fat MySQL switched Akonadi to use sqlite.
 
Old 09-26-2009, 04:01 AM   #14
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Why doesn't Akonadi use sqlite by default?

As for observations on slack...I really don't get why mplayer requires aalib and samba to be insatlled. It seems very unneccesary, and would be expected with other distros moreso than slack.

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Old 09-26-2009, 04:30 AM   #15
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Whats wrong watching some ASCII art action movies? Aren't slackers allowed to have fun? =]
 
  


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