Nvidia 7174 Woes

BenneJezzerette · 05-23-2005, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ramdog
Hi all,

I'm trying to install Slack 10.1 on my laptop (Compaq R3210CA). I've upgraded the kernel from the default 2.4.29 to 2.6.11.9 .

I'm trying to do the same extract-patch-install procedure outlined in mziab's post. However, I can't seem to exract the files from the .run file. I've tried using differen .run files, all with the same problem. The extractor quits after saying something about UID 1000, GID 1000.

Sorry I can't have a more detailed description, but the only way I can access the net now is by going into Windows.

Any help will be much appreciated.

Rameses

Question, did you actually get it installed first, then do the Kernel update? Did you go through the instructions here for your kernel compile too?? It should work. I put Slackware on an E-Machiine M2105 and it was a bear at most, and had to use the May, 2 2005 RC I downloaded to even get it to work. I recently updated to Linux 2.4.30 off the Slackware site so I am pretty much up to date with this. now, the display driver

sh NVIDIA*.run and yes it works fine, that is how I do it. Then let it go and you will be set. As for extracting it, did you get the read me off the nvidia site, it has some nice tips on how to make it work.

from the READ ME I have

The .run file accepts many commandline options. Here are a few of the
more common options:

--info
Print embedded info about the .run file and exit.

--check
Check integrity of the archive and exit.

--extract-only
Extract the contents of ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7174.run,
but do not run 'nvidia-installer'.

--help
Print usage information for the common commandline options
and exit.

--advanced-options
Print usage information for the common commandline options as
well as the advanced options, and then exit.

Installation will also install the utility `nvidia-installer`, which may
be later used to uninstall drivers, auto-download updated drivers, etc.

jong357 · 05-23-2005, 04:36 PM

Usually when you get those errors, it still extracts fine. It just couldn't change the permissions for the files. Sounds pretty basic, but, did you check to see if you have an NVIDIA-BlahBlahBlah folder in the same directory?

Also, which drivers are these? Where did you get them from. What version are you trying to extract? Somebody assigned -g 1000 -o 1000 to the drivers your trying to use, which is pretty bogus. Thats probably why your getting that error because you don't have a Group "1000" or Owner "1000"... They should be root:root....

If they did extract and the perms weren't changed like I suspect, just do a:

chown -R root.root NVIDIA-NameOfFolder

Then patch and make a new .run file if you wish...

BenneJezzerette · 05-23-2005, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jong357
Usually when you get those errors, it still extracts fine. It just couldn't change the permissions for the files. Sounds pretty basic, but, did you check to see if you have an NVIDIA-BlahBlahBlah folder in the same directory?

Also, which drivers are these? Where did you get them from. What version are you trying to extract? Somebody assigned -g 1000 -o 1000 to the drivers your trying to use, which is pretty bogus. Thats probably why your getting that error because you don't have a Group "1000" or Owner "1000"... They should be root:root....

If they did extract and the perms weren't changed like I suspect, just do a:

chown -R root.root NVIDIA-NameOfFolder

Then patch and make a new .run file if you wish...

you can also not even make a new run file, just type make install, from the read me

ramdog · 05-23-2005, 06:56 PM

Benne: I downloaded the 2.6.11.9 kernel source from kernel.org, and compiled my own kernel after going thru the xconfig. Then I put it into my /boot partition, edited lilo.conf so I can select which kernel I want to boot with at startup.
I managed to install the 7174 drivers using the sh NVIDIA-blah.run command. But 7174 doesn't work. So I was trying to use the 2.6 modifed 4620 and patch it for 2.6.11, as per the instructions somewhere on page 3 of this thread.

jong: I'm using the .run file from your site! Anyways, I checked carefully this time and I found that the files did indeed extract into the folder. Sorry for any confusion.

I'll give the patch and install a try right now. I'll let you know how it goes.

Again, sorry for any confusion,
R

BenneJezzerette · 05-23-2005, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ramdog
Benne: I downloaded the 2.6.11.9 kernel source from kernel.org, and compiled my own kernel after going thru the xconfig. Then I put it into my /boot partition, edited lilo.conf so I can select which kernel I want to boot with at startup.
I managed to install the 7174 drivers using the sh NVIDIA-blah.run command. But 7174 doesn't work. So I was trying to use the 2.6 modifed 4620 and patch it for 2.6.11, as per the instructions somewhere on page 3 of this thread.

jong: I'm using the .run file from your site! Anyways, I checked carefully this time and I found that the files did indeed extract into the folder. Sorry for any confusion.

I'll give the patch and install a try right now. I'll let you know how it goes.

Again, sorry for any confusion,
R

god Luck, I am going to attemt the Linux 2.6.11.10 and see what mess I can make of my system.

jong357 · 05-23-2005, 07:14 PM

That doesn't make much sense. Those drivers are recursively chowned root just like every other nvidia driver..... Oh well. Atleast it extracted..

1000.1000 had to come into it somewhere on your end. If you were running as root at the time, not sure what's up with that...

[root@jaguar ~/Desktop] ls -Rla NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0:
total 368
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 216 2005-05-23 20:16 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 248 2005-05-23 20:16 ..
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 5341 2003-09-29 13:42 LICENSE
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3623 2003-09-29 13:42 Makefile
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3294 2004-01-13 10:12 .manifest
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 345680 2004-01-13 09:12 nvidia-installer
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10103 2003-09-29 15:02 pkg-history.txt
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 192 2003-09-29 13:42 usr

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 192 2003-09-29 13:42 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 216 2005-05-23 20:16 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 168 2003-09-29 13:42 bin
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2003-09-29 13:42 include
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 176 2004-01-09 11:50 lib
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2003-09-29 13:42 share
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2003-09-29 13:42 src
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2003-09-29 13:42 X11R6

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/bin:
total 641
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 168 2003-09-29 13:42 .
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 192 2003-09-29 13:42 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 20223 2003-09-29 13:42 makeself.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 44162 2004-01-13 09:12 mkprecompiled
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 582684 2003-09-29 13:42 nvidia-settings
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2924 2003-09-29 13:42 tls_test

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/include:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2003-09-29 13:42 .
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 192 2003-09-29 13:42 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 128 2003-09-29 13:42 GL

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/include/GL:
total 176
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 128 2003-09-29 13:42 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2003-09-29 13:42 ..
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 151712 2003-09-29 13:42 gl.h
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 10011 2003-09-29 13:42 glx.h
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 11047 2003-09-29 13:42 glxtokens.h

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/lib:
total 5677
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 176 2004-01-09 11:50 .
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 192 2003-09-29 13:42 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5370116 2003-09-29 13:42 libGLcore.so.1.0.4620
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 652 2004-01-09 11:50 libGL.la
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 425996 2003-09-29 13:42 libGL.so.1.0.4620
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 152 2004-01-09 11:51 tls

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/lib/tls:
total 5717
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 152 2004-01-09 11:51 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 176 2004-01-09 11:50 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5406896 2003-09-29 13:42 libGLcore.so.1.0.4620
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 652 2004-01-09 11:51 libGL.la
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 433432 2003-09-29 13:42 libGL.so.1.0.4620

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/share:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2003-09-29 13:42 .
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 192 2003-09-29 13:42 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 176 2003-09-29 13:42 doc

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/share/doc:
total 272
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 176 2003-09-29 13:42 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2003-09-29 13:42 ..
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 13742 2003-09-29 13:42 NVIDIA_Changelog
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 137094 2003-09-29 13:42 README
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 112474 2003-09-29 13:42 README.DE
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 7624 2003-09-29 13:42 XF86Config.sample

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/src:
total 1
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2003-09-29 13:42 .
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 192 2003-09-29 13:42 ..
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 680 2004-01-13 10:08 nv

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/src/nv:
total 2142
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 680 2004-01-13 10:08 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2003-09-29 13:42 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4817 2004-01-13 07:43 conftest.sh
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6205 2003-12-17 17:55 gcc-version-check.c
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1734 2003-12-04 13:24 makedevices.sh
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2005-05-23 20:16 Makefile -> Makefile.kbuild
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6990 2004-01-13 10:28 Makefile.kbuild
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4936 2003-12-04 13:52 Makefile.nvidia
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 80162 2004-01-13 08:34 nv.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12542 2003-12-31 08:28 nv.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1930376 2003-09-29 13:42 nv-kernel.o
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20459 2004-01-13 08:34 nv-linux.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2677 2003-09-29 13:42 nv-memdbg.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1517 2003-12-31 08:23 nv-misc.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15364 2003-09-29 13:42 nvtypes.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11935 2003-12-04 13:24 os-agp.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 790 2003-09-29 13:42 os-agp.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24522 2004-01-09 10:20 os-interface.c
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8471 2003-12-31 08:25 os-interface.h
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10214 2003-12-04 13:24 os-registry.c
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 48 2003-12-31 11:39 precompiled
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1064 2003-09-29 13:42 README
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6837 2003-09-29 13:42 rmretval.h

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/src/nv/precompiled:
total 1
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 48 2003-12-31 11:39 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 680 2004-01-13 10:08 ..

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/X11R6:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2003-09-29 13:42 .
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 192 2003-09-29 13:42 ..
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 152 2003-09-29 13:42 lib

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/X11R6/lib:
total 304
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 152 2003-09-29 13:42 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2003-09-29 13:42 ..
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 158424 2003-09-29 13:42 libXvMCNVIDIA.a
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 150520 2003-09-29 13:42 libXvMCNVIDIA.so.1.0.4620
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 104 2003-09-29 13:42 modules

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/X11R6/lib/modules:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 104 2003-09-29 13:42 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 152 2003-09-29 13:42 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 80 2003-09-29 13:42 drivers
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 112 2003-09-29 13:42 extensions

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers:
total 477
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 80 2003-09-29 13:42 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 104 2003-09-29 13:42 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 485336 2003-09-29 13:42 nvidia_drv.o

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions:
total 673
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 112 2003-09-29 13:42 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 104 2003-09-29 13:42 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 684760 2003-09-29 13:42 libglx.so.1.0.4620
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 88 2003-09-29 13:42 tls

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/tls:
total 677
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 88 2003-09-29 13:42 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 112 2003-09-29 13:42 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 692100 2003-09-29 13:42 libglx.so.1.0.4620

BenneJezzerette · 05-23-2005, 07:20 PM

one hting, next time use

Code:

 here

jong357 · 05-23-2005, 07:39 PM

eh? Would have been just as long and formatted the same..

BenneJezzerette · 05-23-2005, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jong357
eh? Would have been just as long and formatted the same..

jes mebe so, but would have appeared nicer format

Code:

because it is separate from the rest of the post

and much cleaner lol.

ramdog · 05-23-2005, 10:07 PM

Well, I've tried to install the drivers. However, I've run up against the same wall that I did when I tried to install 7174; the installer fails to make the modules that it must. To fix that for the 7174 install I used:

Code:

sh NVIDIA-blah-blah.run -k 2.6.11.9

which worked then. But when I tried that here, it failed on me. Here's what nvidia-installer.log had to say about the whole thing:

Code:

nvidia-installer log file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log'
creation time: Mon May 23 18:34:05 2005

option status:
  license pre-accepted    : false
  update                  : false
  force update            : false
  expert                  : false
  uninstall               : false
  driver info             : false
  no precompiled interface: false
  no ncurses color        : false
  query latest driver ver : false
  OpenGL header files     : false
  no questions            : false
  silent                  : false
  XFree86 install prefix  : /usr/X11R6
  OpenGL install prefix   : /usr
  Installer install prefix: /usr
  kernel source path      : /usr/src/linux-2.6.11.9
  kernel install path     : false
  proc mount point        : /proc
  ui                      : (not specified)
  tmpdir                  : /tmp
  ftp site                : ftp://download.nvidia.com

Using: nvidia-installer ncurses user interface
-> License accepted.
-> No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel; would you li
   ke the installer to attempt to download a kernel interface for your kernel f
   rom the NVIDIA ftp site (ftp://download.nvidia.com)? (Answer: No)
-> No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel; this means
   that the installer will need to compile a new kernel interface.
-> Using the kernel source path '/usr/src/linux-2.6.11.9' as specified by the
   '--kernel-source-path' commandline option.
-> Kernel source path: '/usr/src/linux-2.6.11.9'
-> Performing cc_version_check with CC="cc".
-> Cleaning kernel module build directory.
   executing: 'cd ./usr/src/nv; make clean'...
   make: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
-> Building kernel module:
   executing: 'cd ./usr/src/nv; make SYSSRC=/usr/src/linux-2.6.11.9 module'...
   make: *** No rule to make target `module'.  Stop.
-> Error.
ERROR: Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module.
ERROR: Installation has failed.  Please see the file
       '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for details.  You may find suggestions
       on fixing installation problems in the README available on the Linux
       driver download page at www.nvidia.com.

BTW, I compiled my own kernel from the source at kernel.org, and copied vmlinuz from the compile to vmlinuz.new in /boot. I've modifed lilo.conf so that it can boot both kernels, but leaving the original 2.4.29 kernel as untouched as possible. could that be causing the problem?

Thanks again for all the help guys, hopefully this thing will get fixed.

R

jong357 · 05-23-2005, 10:42 PM

Man, I'm so tired of Nvidia stuff...

Code:

[root@jaguar ~/Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/src/nv] ls -la Makefile
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 15 2005-05-23 23:35 Makefile -> Makefile.kbuild
[root@jaguar ~/Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/src/nv] make clean
[root@jaguar ~/Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0/usr/src/nv]

It worked for me.... It sounds like it's telling you there is no Makefile in usr/src/nv

If that's the case then something is seriously wrong...

ramdog · 05-23-2005, 11:07 PM

is 2.6.xx really worth all this trouble? the only thing thats caught my eye (and that too from reading this thread) is the ide-cdwriter support... matter of fact, I don't remember scsi-cdwriting support being all that hard to get working. I'll give this thing another try tomorrow, and if that doesn't work I'll go back to 2.4.xx...

Mind you, even then I'll have to get back here, since I've noticed another problem with the drivers on that. Well lets wait and see if one of the older ones (6111, perhaps?) works.

Thanks,
R

BenneJezzerette · 05-24-2005, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ramdog
Well, I've tried to install the drivers. However, I've run up against the same wall that I did when I tried to install 7174; the installer fails to make the modules that it must. To fix that for the 7174 install I used:

<Cut No Paste>

Ok so you did one big thing wrong.

Quote:

rom the NVIDIA ftp site (ftp://download.nvidia.com)? (Answer: No)
-> No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel; this means
that the installer will need to compile a new kernel interface.

<Cut No Paste>

Here where you said, no, should have been yes, so that it could do what it's supposed to and then you would have the nVidia Drivers installed.

Quote:

BTW, I compiled my own kernel from the source at kernel.org, and copied vmlinuz from the compile to vmlinuz.new in /boot. I've modifed lilo.conf so that it can boot both kernels, but leaving the original 2.4.29 kernel as untouched as possible. could that be causing the problem?

Thanks again for all the help guys, hopefully this thing will get fixed.

R

Not a problem, it's good, just in case you made a mistake.

BenneJezzerette · 05-24-2005, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ramdog
is 2.6.xx really worth all this trouble? the only thing thats caught my eye (and that too from reading this thread) is the ide-cdwriter support... matter of fact, I don't remember scsi-cdwriting support being all that hard to get working. I'll give this thing another try tomorrow, and if that doesn't work I'll go back to 2.4.xx...

Mind you, even then I'll have to get back here, since I've noticed another problem with the drivers on that. Well lets wait and see if one of the older ones (6111, perhaps?) works.

Thanks,
R

I am using Linux 2.4.30 from the Slackware Updates, I personally had a lot of problems, and appar4ently others are still having problems.

jong357 · 05-24-2005, 12:08 PM

Benne... I'm having a hard time understanding you and I think this thread is degenerating rapidly because of it.. No offense....

There's nothing wrong with:

Code:

sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4620-pkg0 -k $(uname -r)

I've had to do it myself on newer nvidia drivers, otherwise it states the the kernel source is misconfigured or some such nonsense... That's what he is talking about.. Your just specifying the running kernel, which it tries to do anyway on it's own... Nothing wrong with helping it out...

Also, NEVER in a million years will it ever find pre-compiled modules on the nvidia site. It doesn't matter whether you say yes or no to that question. You still need to compile your own... I also purposefully remove the precompiled directory in the driver package to save space because those will NEVER match your running kernel anyway.. Not unless your running Redhat 7.3....

Let's try to keep the posts down to a minimum, otherwise no one is going to want to read it, much less try to help by posting...

ramdog.... I honestly think you have a two fold problem going on... Make sure you visually inspect usr/sr/nv for a Makefile symlink. I could guess and say that because of your initial extraction problems with the permissions, that maybe it also wasn't able to create the "Makefile" symlink which points to "Makefile.kbuild"... Your error indicated this. Atleast, that's the first thing I would have checked... It said "no rule to make target".. You get that when it can't find a 'Makefile'....

You also might have a problem with your running kernel directory in /usr/src.... Who knows... I patched and made a 2.6.11 driver (.run file) if your interested in trying it out. Don't think I'll upload it unless your interested in trying it...