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dbeck 05-20-2010 11:40 AM

no video with Dell 760 and Slackware 13.1 RC2
 
Hi - I have been trying to install 13.1rc2 on a Dell 760 (built-in video). After installation, the Dell starts to boot but after so many boot messages the video disappears permanently. I can CTRL+ALT+DEL to reboot so the system is not hung. I tried different lilo options to no avail so I need some help at this point.

Thanks

fruttenboel 05-20-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbeck (Post 3975637)
Hi - I have been trying to install 13.1rc2 on a Dell 760 (built-in video). After installation, the Dell starts to boot but after so many boot messages the video disappears permanently. I can CTRL+ALT+DEL to reboot so the system is not hung. I tried different lilo options to no avail so I need some help at this point.

Thanks

Does it run in text mode?

Here is part of my lilo.conf file:

Code:

# VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x256
vga = 795
# Normal VGA console
# vga = normal
# VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x64k
# vga=791
# VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x32k
# vga=790

I run in the framebuffer. How many penguins do you get while booting? If you run with framebuffer as well, chances are you have the penguin in the top left corner.

First try running with vga = normal and if that works, try something rather 'normal' like 1024/x758.

My Acer E-book runs a 1280x800 screen and Xorg.conf thinks it is a 1280x1024 screen... Works great.

Do you know this site: http://tuxmobil.org/ ? I bet your machine has been linuxised before...

onebuck 05-20-2010 02:15 PM

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbeck (Post 3975637)
Hi - I have been trying to install 13.1rc2 on a Dell 760 (built-in video). After installation, the Dell starts to boot but after so many boot messages the video disappears permanently. I can CTRL+ALT+DEL to reboot so the system is not hung. I tried different lilo options to no avail so I need some help at this point.

Thanks

At 'boot:' try passing 'noapic' & 'noapci' for the kernel you have selected. The boot message provides details as to how to pass parameters.
:hattip:

dbeck 05-20-2010 02:54 PM

I tried the noapci & noapic in this manner:

booted off my install DVD and entered the following:

boot: hugesmp.s root=/dev/sda3 rdinit= ro noapci noapic

with the same results.

dbeck 05-20-2010 03:21 PM

I also tried booting off the install DVD, going into setup, and configuring LILO using the expert mode to include the noapci & noapic parameters.

Still no success.

dbeck 05-20-2010 03:56 PM

fruttenboel - I tried with vga = 795 as suggested. When I rebooted I didn't have any penguins appearing as I did with 13.0 and the graphics failed again.

The boot messages go by fast but I thought I saw INTEL displayed just before the screen went blank. Probably detected the internal graphics on the PC and got lost.

Anymore ideas certainly welcome.

onebuck 05-20-2010 06:18 PM

Hi,

Try this ;
Quote:

excerpt from 'Slackware 13.0 CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT';

If you have a Dell Optiplex 760 (or perhaps some other machine that has the
newer ICH10 chipset), and it won't boot, try one of these:
1. Update the BIOS image to at least A03
2. Turn C-States control off in the BIOS
3. Boot with "hpet=disabled"
I knew that something was amiss but investigation brought this up. The above is from the 'Slackware 13.0 CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT' so try it before you launch the CD/DVD for '-current'. See if the BIOS update along with disabling the timer (hpet) will allow the system to boot.

Sorry about that!
:hattip:

dbeck 05-21-2010 03:17 PM

Onebuck - I tried the options you suggested - thanks again. I should note that the on-board video on this computer worked fine without BIOS/kernel changes using v13.0 but does not in v13.1rc2.

I have set up at static ip so I can ssh into the box. If there is some information I can get to pass on - let me know.

One additional thing I noticed. If I boot off the DVD, which I have done to change lilo.conf and reboot, the system hangs and I need to power cycle.

onebuck 05-21-2010 04:38 PM

Hi,

Since you can 'ssh' then look at 'dmesg' and other logs. Do a 'lspci -vv', 'lsmod' to check the loaded modules. In the dmesg do you see your video? Which driver?

dbeck 05-21-2010 09:47 PM

Here is output from lsmod | awk '/^00/||/Kernel/{print}'
Quote:

-00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset DRAM Controller (rev 03)
-> Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
-> Kernel modules: intel-agp
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
-> Kernel driver in use: pcieport
-> Kernel modules: shpchp
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
-> Kernel driver in use: i915
-> Kernel modules: i915
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:03.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 03)
00:03.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset PT IDER Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 85 [Master SecO PriO])
00:03.3 Serial controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Serial KT Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 02 [16550])
-> Kernel driver in use: serial
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82567LM-3 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 02)
-> Kernel driver in use: e1000e
-> Kernel modules: e1000e
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
-> Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
-> Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
-> Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
-> Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
-> Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
-> Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 02) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
-> Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
-> Kernel modules: ehci-hcd
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
-> Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
-> Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
-> Kernel driver in use: pcieport
-> Kernel modules: shpchp
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
-> Kernel driver in use: pcieport
-> Kernel modules: shpchp
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
-> Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
-> Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
-> Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
-> Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
-> Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
-> Kernel modules: uhci-hcd
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 02) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
-> Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
-> Kernel modules: ehci-hcd
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev a2) (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode])
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JD (ICH10D) LPC Interface Controller (rev 02)
-> Kernel modules: iTCO_wdt
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
-> Kernel driver in use: ahci
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
-> Kernel driver in use: i801_smbus
-> Kernel moduMay 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: Linux agpgart interface v0.103

Notice there is no module for the display controller.

Following is the portion of the console output I don't see and a part of tail -100 /var/log/messages. Things go by pretty fast and then a totally blank screen with the monitor saying nothing there. The last things I can see is "HDA Intel" which one can see below.

Quote:

May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: Intel Q45/Q43 Chipset
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: detected 32764K stolen memory
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xd0000000
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: input: No brand KVM as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.1/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.0/input/input3
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: generic-usb 0003:10D5:5A08.0001: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [No brand KVM] on usb-0000:00:1a.1-2/input0
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: input: No brand KVM as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.1/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.1/input/input4
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: generic-usb 0003:10D5:5A08.0002: input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [No brand KVM] on usb-0000:00:1a.1-2/input1
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: usbhid: USB HID core driver
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810

<><><> below is the last line that I can see - then black screen<><><>

May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: i915 0000:00:02.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: [drm] set up 31M of stolen space
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: No connectors reported connected with modes
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 for 0000:00:02.0 on minor 0
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: Adding 2104504k swap on /dev/sda2. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:2104504k
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: fuse init (API version 7.13)
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: EXT3-fs (sda3): using internal journal
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 kernel: lp0: console ready
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 logger: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1: /sbin/ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 logger: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1: /sbin/route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 lo
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 logger: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1: /sbin/ifconfig eth0 134.29.23.7 broadcast 134.29.23.255 netmask 255.255.255.0
May 21 21:06:44 dell760 logger: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1: /sbin/route add default gw 134.29.23.254 metric 1
May 21 21:06:45 dell760 kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 10
May 21 21:06:45 dell760 kernel: lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
May 21 21:06:45 dell760 kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
May 21 21:06:45 dell760 sshd[1610]: Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22.
May 21 21:06:45 dell760 sshd[1610]: Server listening on :: port 22.
May 21 21:06:45 dell760 acpid: starting up with proc fs
May 21 21:06:45 dell760 acpid: skipping conf file /etc/acpi/events/..
May 21 21:06:45 dell760 acpid: skipping conf file /etc/acpi/events/.
May 21 21:06:45 dell760 acpid: 1 rule loaded
May 21 21:06:45 dell760 acpid: waiting for events: event logging is off
May 21 21:06:46 dell760 kernel: e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: RX/TX
May 21 21:06:46 dell760 kernel: 0000:00:19.0: eth0: 10/100 speed: disabling TSO
May 21 21:06:46 dell760 kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
May 21 21:06:50 dell760 acpid: client connected from 1665[82:82]
May 21 21:06:50 dell760 acpid: 1 client rule loaded
May 21 21:06:50 dell760 kernel: cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
May 21 21:06:53 dell760 /usr/sbin/gpm[1706]: *** info [startup.c(95)]:
May 21 21:06:53 dell760 /usr/sbin/gpm[1706]: Started gpm successfully. Entered daemon mode.
May 21 21:06:53 dell760 /usr/sbin/gpm[1706]: *** info [mice.c(1766)]:
May 21 21:06:53 dell760 /usr/sbin/gpm[1706]: imps2: Auto-detected intellimouse PS/2
May 21 21:08:11 dell760 sshd[1720]: Accepted password for root from 134.29.23.114 port 37698 ssh2
les: i2c-i801
Denis...

dbeck 05-21-2010 09:57 PM

Forgot the lsmod - here it is:

Quote:

root@dell760:~# lsmod
Module Size Used by
snd_seq_dummy 1107 0
snd_seq_oss 25580 0
snd_seq_midi_event 4620 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 42857 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device 4543 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss 33917 0
snd_mixer_oss 13399 1 snd_pcm_oss
ipv6 229909 24
lp 7161 0
fuse 52401 1
snd_hda_codec_analog 51163 1
i915 263263 0
drm_kms_helper 23751 1 i915
drm 133002 2 i915,drm_kms_helper
snd_hda_intel 18936 0
joydev 7989 0
ppdev 5103 0
parport_pc 18027 1
snd_hda_codec 57091 2 snd_hda_codec_analog,snd_hda_intel
i2c_i801 7194 0
i2c_algo_bit 4355 1 i915
i2c_core 15279 5 i915,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_i801,i2c_algo_bit
intel_agp 22699 1
video 15937 1 i915
output 1444 1 video
agpgart 23773 2 drm,intel_agp
parport 25487 3 lp,ppdev,parport_pc
rtc_cmos 7838 0
rtc_core 12050 1 rtc_cmos
rtc_lib 1522 1 rtc_core
button 3934 1 i915
processor 26515 0
thermal 10194 0
usbhid 33016 0
dcdbas 4480 0
thermal_sys 12086 3 video,processor,thermal
snd_hwdep 5046 1 snd_hda_codec
hid 61027 1 usbhid
snd_pcm 57736 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
e1000e 117345 0
snd_timer 15699 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd 43107 11 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,
snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_codec_analog,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm
,snd_timer
psmouse 40750 0
evdev 6939 4
serio_raw 3754 0
soundcore 4815 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 5849 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
hwmon 1085 1 thermal_sys
sg 21214 0
root@dell760:~#

allend 05-22-2010 12:11 AM

Have you done the BIOS update?
This issue is discussed here and includes a link to a recent BIOS update.
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=93689
This makes interesting background reading.
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13053

onebuck 05-22-2010 08:01 AM

Hi,

The driver is there;
Code:

Kernel driver in use: i915
-> Kernel modules: i915
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)

You should do the BIOS update. Go through the Dell site and follow the instructions for BIOS update(s). Follow explicitly!
The newer Intel packages are being used by 13.1 rc2.

:hattip:

dbeck 05-24-2010 01:23 PM

I am currently at A03 and v13.0 works fine but I will do the BIOS update and try that.

From the dell site, they have two ways for updating - one from a windows machine and the other a non-windows machine with a floppy. Is there a way to do the BIOS update without a floppy and without loading windows on the machine?

Denis...

ponce 05-24-2010 01:41 PM

i reported a similar issue sometime ago: in my work netbook I had to patch and rebuild the kernel to have a working KMS with an intel GMA 450 and stock generic, with this (if the patch doesn't apply you can backup and edit the file by hand, it's just the matter of deleting some lines), it seems like a common issue (the display of the laptop is seen as disconnected).

in another case I had the same behaviour on my work dell desktop with intel 3100 but this time the cause was a custom kernel config: I rebuilt using .config from stock generic removing what I don't need and that fixed it (but I have not caught the CONFIG_ option interested).

but really don't know if your problem is related: if someone wants to try it it's welcome, I report these two as "works-for-me-for-black-screen-post-boot-running-current". :)


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