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Old 12-22-2011, 04:56 AM   #61
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Slackware 13.37 is wonderful; I don't think anyone was being critical of 13.37.
Need a tongue-in-cheek smily.

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Old 12-22-2011, 07:24 AM   #62
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the next release will most probably have a new kernel from the 3.x series...
Which one is stable the 3.1.x or the 3.0 branch?
And what does the bump from 2 to 3 bring for us? USB3? or?

I imagine:
Slackware 14.0, still supporting the {Slackware release major}.{kernel release minor} scheme with a
3.0.8 kernel :^)
 
Old 12-22-2011, 08:01 AM   #63
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Given that 'current' hasn't even got started yet, the next Slackware is either going to be a 13.4 with only minor version bumps to what we already have, or it's going to be a long way in the future and will probably have something like a 3.3.x or a 3.4.x kernel. No point even thinking about it at this stage of the game.

For what it's worth. 3.1.x has been working well for me. 3.2 is going to contain a lot of changes, and anyone interested in stability will probably want to hold back on that one to let it settle in.
 
Old 12-22-2011, 08:28 AM   #64
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I'm running my "virgin" compile of 3.1.5 and figure that I have lots to wade trough until I can say I "really feel" it.
First impression:
I ripped off too much of "debug" so my syslog looks a bit too bare?
)
 
Old 12-22-2011, 08:39 AM   #65
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Maybe Pat and Co. are going to give us a Christmas present.
 
Old 12-22-2011, 08:55 AM   #66
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Maybe Pat and Co. are going to give us a Christmas present.
yeah... and release the 128-bit version of Slackware they have been secretly working on for the last year.
 
Old 12-22-2011, 09:56 AM   #67
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yeah... and release the 128-bit version of Slackware they have been secretly working on for the last year.
128 bit? maybe in time for the inevitable release 42 otherwise I doubt it.
But there are quite few Christmases out there...

Maybe we could expect a Easter-egg in the form of 13.37 repackaged with recent patches and a heap of slackbuilds for non-free packages on a "got from Santa" (== red and fuzzy on the edges) DVD?
It this too much to hope (even in vain) for?
 
Old 12-22-2011, 11:51 AM   #68
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Oh I wasn't even considering a new release... perhaps offical addition of Xfce 4.8/KDE 4.7 (I think?), maybe some other really cool packages, perhaps a upgrade kernel... who knows?
 
Old 12-24-2011, 06:48 AM   #69
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Beware of "in between" kernel upgrades with Slackware though:
I once made this mistake only to regret it bitterly:
The thing with running a server is You won't have down time,
and
The thing with upgrading krenel is You will have restarts and on occasion You will have troubleshooting configurations (= downtime)

So, in the end I got stuck with and "in between" kernel and the 11.0 Slackware all the time until 2011.
Where I managed to get all working with mainline kernel release, I would have the system upgraded all the time effort less as I upgraded the other machine...

The devel-box or desktop is another story...
;-)

Fine folks the Slackware team, BTW
 
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:59 PM   #70
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Nah, I don't believe it. "Bob" would never let that happen.
I believe, it is true. But Bob punished Chuck Norris for his misdemeanour . The penalty was to count to infinity. Twice.

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Old 12-27-2011, 08:11 PM   #71
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Fine folks the Slackware team, BTW
Agreed!
 
Old 12-27-2011, 08:21 PM   #72
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My guess is, that Pat and the crew are watching and waiting for some current developments to settle. One question could be, if the next release will still have to include HAL, or if it is possible to get it out without it. Also, it may be necessary for Slackware to follow others on their path to Systemd. btrfs support would be an option.
Regarding desktop environments, Pat might be waiting for Xfce 4.10 (delayed) and for a KDE release, that migrates Email to the Akonadi based KMail more reliably than existing versions (cannot comment on 4.7.4, though).

All these things and a few more are moving targets at the moment, making it ever harder for a small team to create a consistent Linux distro. But after a while of diverging developments, there are indications that things are getting a bit more stable, though it will take a while. E. g., some time ago, there was a dispute, if Systemd or Upstart would get the edge. A few months later noone is talking about Upstart, anymore, except in the *buntu world. Maybe, Pat just wants to wait a little, for a point in time, when other things have settled a bit more, too, in order to avoid replacing proven technology with new stuff, only to have to replace it again with the release after the next.

And as we all know: Pat is extremely good in making this sort of decision!

gargamel

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Old 12-27-2011, 08:42 PM   #73
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And as we all know: Pat is extremely good in making this sort of decision!

gargamel
Yes! I am a relatively new user of Slackware (started with 10.0) and in my experience it is very clear to me that Mr. Volkerding has a very steady hand on the tiller as he navigates the choppy open source seas. I never worry about the evolution of Slackware, the next stable release will be well-crafted as per usual.
 
Old 12-28-2011, 12:55 AM   #74
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I believe, it is true. But Bob punished Chuck Norris for his misdemeanour . The penalty was to count to infinity. Twice.

gargamel
One time Pat and Chuck Norris were driving down the road and a cop pulled them over.


The cop was lucky to get off with only a warning.

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Old 12-28-2011, 03:40 AM   #75
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I believe, it is true. But Bob punished Chuck Norris for his misdemeanour . The penalty was to count to infinity. Twice.

gargamel
Chuck Norris can't count to twenty without taking his shoes and socks off.
 
  


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