Hey...looks like KDE 3.3 is out! If I just did "swaret --upgrade -a" a couple days ago, will that pick it up? I'm still not certain how to use swaret. Hope someone can help

Andrew

The version of KDE 3.3 they released is an alpha version,
more than likely won't be in the mirrors for a while. Go to
www.freshmeat.net they have the current swaret website listed. You can find help chat and other helpful stuff there.


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Oooh...I was gonna say- I thought 3.2 was pretty recent... oops, feel kinda dumb

Thanks for the quick reply~

Andrew

http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.3.php

Doesn't seem like an alpha version to me?

ajbrouwe...I definitely think you should learn more about swaret (check the man page, and/or read the manual/FAQs at http://swaret.sourceforge.net/index.php), so that you aren't using it in the dark so to speak. If you don't know what you're doing, you might break your system. Sure, swaret might be a handy tool...but make sure you're aware of what you're upgrading and why, and if you need to take any precautions.

Yep you're right it seems to be a stable release. When I saw it (yesterday I think) I could have sworn it was listed as an alpha. (old age isn't creeping up on me anymore it's running full speed) I'll give it a try soon .There's a couple of minor annoyances I have with 3.2 and if this solves them it'll be close to perfect for me. Thanks for pointing that out.

Yes, 3.3 is a stable release and it also work pretty stable ;-) Simply download the Slackware packages from a KDE mirror, remove the old KDE Packages and install the new ones.
The only difference I could find in points of installing is, that you do not have to update QT, and that quata is now in a package called "kdewebdev". Also mind that not all mirrors are up to date yet: I had to try three mirrors, before I found one with all packages. A full list of mirrors and all needed packages can be found there: http://www.kde.org/download/


cccc828

I suggest not to follow the README.

Don't do removepkg, definitely not for QT. QT is already OK.

(cept may be for Quanta, you need to removepkg for it.)

Just do upgradepkg *.tgz in the downloaded folder

Due to the reputation of KDE 3.2.0, I'll wait for 3.3.1/2, thank you very much. I'd recommend the same for any Slack user, since Slack is meant to not have many bugs.

KDE 3.2.3 to 3.3 is less of a step than 3.1.4 to 3.2 was.

3.3 is mostly bug fixes and some small features. The only big changes are in KDEPIM, it's been updated a bit and there's better intergration between the apps.

It's very stable, you should upgrade now. It'll probably be a while for the next version.

is there any easy way to do it using swaret? I've been using "swaret --upgrade -a" for all of my upgrade, after I "updatedb," followed by "upgradedep." Still not entirely sure how to use swaret- I assume that the first command just updates all available packages.

Andrew

Usually there is a sense in that, but this time upgrade from 3.2.3 to 3.3 on slack is so easy. Just:
1. use the link on top to download all the packages you want to a folder. (I skipped kdetoys and kdegames)
2. Quit X for a good measure.
3. go to the folder with files.
4. "removepkg quanta"
5. "upgradepkg *.tgz"
6. "installpkg kdewebdev*.tgz"
the end.

You need 4 and 6 only if you have\want Quanta to be installed.

WARNING: upgradepkg *.tgz will upgrade only ALREADY INSTALLED packages.
(Example: I don't have kdegames 3.2.3 installed. Even if I have the kdegames 3.3 tgz in folder, it will not be installed) You'll need to install them separately through installpkg

Just out of curiousity; what does "quanta" actually do? Was the command programmed to simply search all kde packages and remove them? It just seems weird to me that I can be in ANY directory to have these work. Should I put them in their own? I can just get them all in one folder, use the quanta to remove them all, and then use the upgrade on all archived, and everything will be fine? I just find it hard to believe that everything will still boot perfectly with all the config files pointing to the new packages...too much time using windows i suppose. Wow- linux is cool...

Thanks for the help~

Andrew

Quanta is an advanced Editor. The reason why you have to remove it manually is, that the packagename changed: Until 3.2.3 is was called quanta-n.n.n.tgz, but starting with 3.3 the "quanta" package is called kdewebdev-n.n.tgz. (N being the version numbers like 3.2.3).
It does not matter in what directory you put the packages, because each package contains install instructions which pkgtool can follow automatically. As you probably come from an Windows background: It does not matter where you put the .exe install files, the program will install fine whereever they are.
Do not worry about config files: They all have the same name and are just replaced with the new ones. And if KDEshould really become unusable, simply uninstall the new packages and install the ones from the CD.

cccc828

ajbrouwe, it's not a bad thing to ask, it is a bad thing not to read other posts.

Quanta - web page design application.

Which means: upgradepkg *.tgz will upgrade (replace) all packages and leave old quanta in place.

But you bring an good point: it won't install new Quanta from kdewebdev either. so, if you want it, you'll need to do "installpkg kdewebdev*.tgz" too.