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Old 01-30-2012, 06:26 PM   #46
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If you want to know what the pending updates are, they are plainly visible on the Net, just not in the place you'd first check...

Think of updated toolchain (kernel, glibc, gcc, coreutils) and also openssl, ca-certificates, freetype, sendmail, emacs, firefox, seamonkey to name a few.

Happily test-running them here. Upgraded to the new kernel just hours ago and it's all looking good. A lot still needs to be built for 32bit I guess, which is holding up things.

Eric
 
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:31 PM   #47
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Thanks Eric! Maybe things will quiet down here at Slackware LQ Forum.
 
Old 01-30-2012, 07:08 PM   #48
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Thanks Eric! Maybe things will quiet down here at Slackware LQ Forum.
You have to just make these threads fun. It's disappointing that no one deliberately threw out some ridiculous conspiracy theories to see how many people would buy it.

I've said this before, and it's so important that it warrants repeating here.

Chuck Norris is a Slacker. So the team is petrified of releasing something that wouldn't meet his approval. Haven't you seen his commercial? "I'm Chuck Norris. And I approve this Distro."

Wouldn't you be scared to ram through a crappy release? We're not just talking bad reviews or another bitch fit from Linus.... we're talking Roundhouse Kicks to the Chops.
 
Old 01-30-2012, 07:14 PM   #49
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Thanks Eric, I appreciate your reply. All is well.
 
Old 01-30-2012, 08:07 PM   #50
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My $0.02

The beauty of not being bleeding edge, is that we're not vulnerable to matters such as : http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/alerts/sudo_debug.html

Sandy bridge works on Slackware, it does not on $other-distro . You have no idea how many distro's and computers we've been testing at the office.

Many distro's issue countless patches, giving the user a warm and fuzzy feeling. When at the end of the day, many of the security exploits are from things that they themselves have done. Or they're issuing a bug fix patch to fix a prior distro specific bug fix patch.

I myself am willing to wait a long time for Mr. V to come back. I've been using Slackware for years as have others near and dear to me. Some of them for various reasons never did the updates/upgrades and their computers never even got touched. Believe me I ran integrity checks on them when I got the back. Like I said, my $0.02. I'm not worried about it. That's not to say that I'm not updating things here on my own. But through the great help here on the forums over the years, I'm a big boy now. I can tie my shoes. Roll a new ssl package, fix a bad ssl cert, repack a firefox binary, or just run a new one out of my home. It's still better this way, then with other distro's.

I'd rather use windows then another distro. So I'm gonna ride it out because even win 7 can't hold a candle to my darling Slackware. I hope Mr. V and his family had a great holiday, and look forward to him coming back to the helm.
 
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Old 01-30-2012, 08:19 PM   #51
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Many distro's issue countless patches, giving the user a warm and fuzzy feeling. When at the end of the day, many of the security exploits are from things that they themselves have done. Or they're issuing a bug fix patch to fix a prior distro specific bug fix patch.
A good friend of mine used to live near an area where 3 power company grids connected to each other. One day, he walked over to one of the work crews and started a friendly conversation about the fact that someone always seemed to be out there working on something.

The fellow in charge of that crew told him, "You know, 90% of the work we do is because of the work we do."

 
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Old 01-30-2012, 08:23 PM   #52
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I also give full support to the V man. I "boo" at those looking to switch after one month of slow updates. Think about the previous 19 years PV has been there for ya. Providing the best distro ever, free of charge. Show your support.

He'll be back one day and when that day comes we'll all be right here.
 
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Old 01-30-2012, 08:37 PM   #53
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@Richard, hahaha I think I know those guys
 
Old 01-30-2012, 09:11 PM   #54
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You have to just make these threads fun. It's disappointing that no one deliberately threw out some ridiculous conspiracy theories to see how many people would buy it.

I've said this before, and it's so important that it warrants repeating here.

Chuck Norris is a Slacker. So the team is petrified of releasing something that wouldn't meet his approval. Haven't you seen his commercial? "I'm Chuck Norris. And I approve this Distro."

Wouldn't you be scared to ram through a crappy release? We're not just talking bad reviews or another bitch fit from Linus.... we're talking Roundhouse Kicks to the Chops.
He is getting up in years so I think you are wrong here. Sure he can kick but can he run as fast at 72? People do carry equalizers now, except here in Illinois.

Fun, people are questioning a man's ethics, business tactics & not respecting him personally. I do not call that fun, but slander.

To all that feel Slackware is sliding then why are you here debating moot points. Other members have provided information that should settle the issue. Look at this way, if you cannot accept the fact that things (as stated) are in the pipeline then why remain with something that you personally feel is not meeting your needs.

Enough said!
 
Old 01-30-2012, 10:26 PM   #55
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@Richard, hahaha I think I know those guys
California's got the most of them
Boy, they got a host of them
Swear t'God they got the most
At every business on the coast
 
Old 01-31-2012, 12:44 AM   #56
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If you want to know what the pending updates are, they are plainly visible on the Net, just not in the place you'd first check...
Tease
 
Old 01-31-2012, 05:51 AM   #57
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Well, yes, but the business of the Slackware business is the sale by mail order of geek artefacts (teeshirts, bottle openers, discs). There is a software distribution coincidentally branded Slackware, but that is an occasional *gift* from a small group of people (one of whom has a mail order geek artefact business).
This is a good point. Though both Slackware Inc and Redhat are companies and both offer 'Subscriptions' they're two very different things. Unlike Redhat's offering, there is no promise of ongoing support for the slackware product: it's just a standing pre-order for new cd/dvd install media pressings (are they still called 'pressings' these days?).

I think some of us have the wrong idea of what Slackware actually is. I've posted on these forums before that I've tended to view Slackware as "LFS with some of the work already done for you". Now I realise that this is more true than even I thought.
 
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Old 01-31-2012, 05:57 AM   #58
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some of the work already done for us?
come on!
 
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Old 01-31-2012, 06:02 AM   #59
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Don't get hung up on the individual words I used. It's the concept that matters. s/some/most if it makes you feel happier.
 
Old 01-31-2012, 06:23 AM   #60
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It took me 58 years to get interested in computers and buy one. It took another two years to discover Linux. It took about a month to find out I liked Slackware better than any other distro. I believe I can wait for updates to 13.37, or the next release (? ), without having a nervous breakdown.
 
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