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Old 09-10-2009, 03:30 PM   #1
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Nepomuk Strigi


Hello,

Anyone know offhand where layeth the configuration for Nepomuk Strigi. I want to keep it running (unless I get just outright PO'd at it in the future), but also want to disable the "suspended" and "resumed" popup nonsense. I think it is switching between these modes often because it is mad at my high load (I'm running BOINC).

Akonadi (spyware in my opinion) had to go.

Thanks.

EDIT: I thought the behavior could be controlled by power options settings, but the popups are still occuring.

# locate nepo | grep conf
/root/.kde/share/config/nepomukserverrc
/root/.kde/share/config/nepomukstrigirc

(Neither has anything to control the popups.)

.

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Old 09-10-2009, 06:15 PM   #2
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I disabled nepomuk-a-muk through the System Settings (Control Center) as root. I disabled Strigi in the same as both root and then with my normal account.
 
Old 09-10-2009, 07:08 PM   #3
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I disabled nepomuk and strigi as they took up huge amounts of cpu cycles and caused my panel to freeze.
 
Old 09-10-2009, 07:36 PM   #4
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Yeah, I ended up just turning it off. It didn't seem to want to say much about itself (no man page), so bye-bye. Plus, it was digging into my Boinc cycles a little bit and thats a no-no.

Nepomukserver is going to permanently give up the ghost also.

Just me, or do all these search/indexing/wallet/etc programs just seem to make it easier for someone else to get your personal data because they centralize everything?

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Old 09-10-2009, 08:17 PM   #5
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Quote:
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Just me, or do all these search/indexing/wallet/etc programs just seem to make it easier for someone else to get your personal data because they centralize everything?
No, it's not just you... That's exactly what I think about all this.
 
Old 09-10-2009, 10:58 PM   #6
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Yes, Nepomuk have no man page. But it has its website. At least, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEPOMUK_(framework). I found it convenient in daily usage because you can tag your file and search for them. That is the way I manage my e-book collection. So I turned it on.

With Strigi, you can search text in texts, even in pdf. It's a tool may life easier. Without it, what would you do to search a word in hundreds of texts? 'find . | grep "your word"'? It's painful and if you search everyday it will be painfuller.

One thing I like KDE is the KDE devs tend to base the whole desktop upon many frameworks, such as Nepomuk, Strigi, Akonadi and so on, which could provide the possibility to get the whole desktop structured and unified. However, I have to admit that KDE4.2 is not mature in this aspect.

Is KDE a lightweight desktop environment? No, definitely not. If you look something "simple but not simpler", Xfce may be your choice. But I haven't tried it yet.
 
Old 09-10-2009, 11:01 PM   #7
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Ha. I just tried removing both packages and KDE would not start.

Nepomuk: Networked Environment for Personalized, Ontology-based Management of Unified Knowledge

Hoo boy. That rates right up there with GNOME: GNU Network Object Model Environment.

Gotta love those acronyms!
 
Old 09-10-2009, 11:42 PM   #8
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I'm with ya on those acronyms. Yikes. Maybe they should apply their tech to teh official web site http://nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org/x...in/view/Main1/ since I don't find any useful ocumentation. Bah.

If Nepomuk/Strigi it can be tweaked and set up securely, I may find it useful - I too have a whole glop of documents in various formats that i need to keep organized. But the names...
 
Old 09-11-2009, 12:38 AM   #9
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Does the name really matter? No. At least not for me. I just care about the functionalities.
 
Old 09-11-2009, 10:55 AM   #10
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Hello,

Anyone know offhand where layeth the configuration for Nepomuk Strigi. I want to keep it running (unless I get just outright PO'd at it in the future), but also want to disable the "suspended" and "resumed" popup nonsense. I think it is switching between these modes often because it is mad at my high load (I'm running BOINC).
[...]
Hi! You can disable those popups in System Settings - Notifications. Select "The Nepomuk Strigi file indexer" in the Event Source and toggle stuff under it.

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If Nepomuk/Strigi it can be tweaked and set up securely, I may find it useful - I too have a whole glop of documents in various formats that i need to keep organized. But the names...
You can set what directories are indexed in System Settings - Desktop Search - Advanced Settings. Additionally, you can also set up exclude filters in there.
 
Old 09-11-2009, 02:26 PM   #11
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Try not to lose your nepomuk tags and descriptions by copy/move operations outside of kde. I switched nepomuk off because wasn't sure how reliable it is to this kind of data loss.
 
Old 09-11-2009, 10:36 PM   #12
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I third that - not just you!

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Just me, or do all these search/indexing/wallet/etc programs just seem to make it easier for someone else to get your personal data because they centralize everything?
I found a great way to disable the necromonger server, stricky and akindadontknow all at once - it's called Fluxbox. Works every time...
 
Old 09-11-2009, 10:59 PM   #13
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What "desktop" ills
can not fluxbox cure
an end to silly
automated "services"
if i wanted help,
i'd ask for it
precise control beats
shiny baubles, anytime
 
Old 09-18-2009, 01:27 PM   #14
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FYI: nepomukservices, the desktop pig.

As always, my new Slack 13 install ran fine from the terminal. But in KDE4 it was SLOW with 2GB RAM, and unusable with 512MB! After wasting time hunting, I found the problem . . . and killed it! Since I figure some other folks are also wasting time, so I'll post what I did / found.

[BTW, I really miss the loss of Quanta Plus in KDE4, and it doesn't look like there's anyone to port it, so it's a long term loss. I'm going to have to dual boot 12.2, just to recover Quanta!]


Anyhow, back to my regularly scheduled whining:

To cut to the chase: disable desktop searching by going to "System Settings" | Advanced tab | "Desktop Search". You'll find two services, Neopomuk and Strigi. I've disabled both, but at a minimum, disable Neopomuk. That should reduce memory usage and increase speed a great deal.

That's the biggie, but you can also go to KDE Service manager, and disable all the useless services (like a listener for "wall" messages sent by local users, or more probably, from the Ghost of SysAdmins Past!): "System Settings" | Advanced tab | "Service Manager".

For the curious, or those who want to trust -- but verify -- what I've posted, the following links may help:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/
http://techbase.kde.org/Development/...epomukServices
http://markmail.org/message/uq564fjrg3dswsgk
http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3102050.0
http://nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org/x...in/view/Main1/
As the links above reveal, Neopomuk AKA "Networked Environment for Personalized, Ontology-based Management of Unified Knowledge" is apparently a rather pretentious effort to install 'Big Brother' on your desktop. Right now, other than using up your CPU cycles and filling up your RAM, Neopomuk doesn't accomplish much of anything. But, feel free to leave it running if it makes you feel like you are participating in the internet's NBT (Next Big Thing).

GaHillBilly
 
Old 09-18-2009, 02:04 PM   #15
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I did the same thing after I noticed that the nepomuk directory somewhere under ~/.kde was nearly 2 gigs in size. I realize that disk space is cheap these days, but I consider that inexcusable.

Adam
 
  


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