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Old 12-30-2016, 09:44 AM   #1
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Unhappy need help with Slackware X org graphics driver Sis 630/730


Hello I got an old Pc with Slackware 8.0 I know this version is pretty old but I like to mess with older operating systems and stuff. But I can't get X server to display right either the display is too big for the monitor or the display is too small. But I did find an old Slackware Linux driver sis 630/730 but when I unzipped the file it was there but when I dir the file, Slackware would say no such file or directory. My video card is a Sis 630/730. thank you for taking your time to help me

Update I saw that usually when Linux says no file or directory when the file does exists it means that you are running a 32bit software in a 64 bit Os. But I don't think that's my case here because this Pc is very old and is not 64 bit and the driver I highly doubt it is 64 bit
 
Old 12-30-2016, 10:12 AM   #2
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I don't think we can help you but in any case we would need more information, at least your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and a link to the driver you did find.

PS According to this post the config file in Slackware 8 should be /etc/XF86Config. If you have it please provide it.

Last edited by Didier Spaier; 12-30-2016 at 10:47 AM. Reason: PS added.
 
Old 12-30-2016, 10:22 AM   #3
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can't post my xorg.conf file now but here is the link to the driver www.video-drivers.com/drivers/62/62002.htm
 
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I did this:
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unzip xsis.zip
This creates a directory xsis where I find three files:Readme.doc, xsis.rpm and xsis.tgz

As expected Readme.doc gives you instructions for installation.

Did you read it?

I do not know if the "unzip" command worked the same in Slackware 8.0 but you should be able to get and read Readme.doc anyway.
 
Old 12-30-2016, 10:56 AM   #5
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I don't think we can help you but in any case we would need more information, at least your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and a link to the driver you did find.

PS According to this post the config file in Slackware 8 should be /etc/XF86Config. If you have it please provide it.
Here it is

# File generated by xf86config.

#
# Copyright (c) 1999 by The XFree86 Project, Inc.
#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
#
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
# all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
#
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL
# THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
#
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall
# not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the
# XFree86 Project.
#

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Module section -- this section is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **********************************************************************
#
Section "Module"

# This loads the DBE extension module.

Load "dbe" # Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection

# This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"

# This loads the GLX module
# Load "glx"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"

# The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally
# no need to change the default.

RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
#
# If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other
# programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory
# to the end of this list (or comment them out).
#

FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"

# The module search path. The default path is shown here.

# ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is
# received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging

# Option "NoTrapSignals"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><BS> server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.

# Option "DontZap"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> mode switching
# sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events.

# Option "Dont Zoom"

# Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With
# it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes,
# but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will
# receive a protocol error.

# Option "DisableVidModeExtension"

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local xvidtune client.

# Option "AllowNonLocalXvidtune"

# Uncomment this to disable dynamically modifying the input device
# (mouse and keyboard) settings.

# Option "DisableModInDev"

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local client to
# change the keyboard or mouse settings (currently only xset).

# Option "AllowNonLocalModInDev"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Input devices
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Core keyboard's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "Keyboard"
# For most OSs the protocol can be omitted (it defaults to "Standard").
# When using XQUEUE (only for SVR3 and SVR4, but not Solaris),
# uncomment the following line.

# Option "Protocol" "Xqueue"

Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
# Option "Xleds" "1 2 3"

# Option "LeftAlt" "Meta"
# Option "RightAlt" "ModeShift"

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
# Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
# Option "XkbModel" "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# or:
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
# Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps"

# These are the default XKB settings for XFree86
# Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
# Option "XkbModel" "pc101"
# Option "XkbLayout" "us"
# Option "XkbVariant" ""
# Option "XkbOptions" ""

# Option "XkbDisable"

Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc101"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Core Pointer's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

# Identifier and driver

Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"

# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.

# Option "Protocol" "Xqueue"

# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In
# almost every case these lines should be omitted.

# Option "BaudRate" "9600"
# Option "SampleRate" "150"

# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)

# Option "Emulate3Buttons"
# Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"

# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice

# Option "ChordMiddle"

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Other input device sections
# this is optional and is required only if you
# are using extended input devices. This is for example only. Refer
# to the XF86Config man page for a description of the options.
# **********************************************************************
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "Mouse2"
# Driver "mouse"
# Option "Protocol" "MouseMan"
# Option "Device" "/dev/mouse2"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "spaceball"
# Driver "magellan"
# Option "Device" "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "spaceball2"
# Driver "spaceorb"
# Option "Device" "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "touchscreen0"
# Driver "microtouch"
# Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
# Option "MinX" "1412"
# Option "MaxX" "15184"
# Option "MinY" "15372"
# Option "MaxY" "1230"
# Option "ScreenNumber" "0"
# Option "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
# Option "ButtonNumber" "1"
# Option "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "touchscreen1"
# Driver "elo2300"
# Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
# Option "MinX" "231"
# Option "MaxX" "3868"
# Option "MinY" "3858"
# Option "MaxY" "272"
# Option "ScreenNumber" "0"
# Option "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
# Option "ButtonThreshold" "17"
# Option "ButtonNumber" "1"
# Option "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of monitor sections may be present

Section "Monitor"

Identifier "My Monitor"

# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

HorizSync 31.5

# HorizSync 30-64 # multisync
# HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies
# HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies

# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

VertRefresh 50-90

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present

# Standard VGA Device:

Section "Device"
Identifier "Sis Generic"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"
Driver "sis"

# The chipset line is optional in most cases. It can be used to override
# the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified.

# Chipset "generic"

# The Driver line must be present. When using run-time loadable driver
# modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver
# module. Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line
# indicates which driver should interpret the information in this section.

Driver "sis"
# The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices
# this section is intended for. When this line isn't present, a device
# section can only match up with the primary video device. For PCI
# devices a line like the following could be used. This line should not
# normally be included unless there is more than one video device
# intalled.

# BusID "PCI:0:10:0"

# VideoRam 256

# Clocks 25.2 28.3

EndSection

# Device configured by xf86config:

Section "Device"
Identifier "SiS SG86C201"
Driver "sis"
#VideoRam 16000
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of screen sections may be present. Each describes
# the configuration of a single screen. A single specific screen section
# may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen"
# option.
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen 1"
Device "SiS SG86C201"
Monitor "My Monitor"
DefaultDepth 16

Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# ServerLayout sections.
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of ServerLayout sections may be present. Each describes
# the way multiple screens are organised. A specific ServerLayout
# section may be specified from the X server command line with the
# "-layout" option. In the absence of this, the first section is used.
# When now ServerLayout section is present, the first Screen section
# is used alone.

Section "ServerLayout"

# The Identifier line must be present
Identifier "Simple Layout"

# Each Screen line specifies a Screen section name, and optionally
# the relative position of other screens. The four names after
# primary screen name are the screens to the top, bottom, left and right
# of the primary screen. In this example, screen 2 is located to the
# right of screen 1.

Screen "Screen 1"

# Each InputDevice line specifies an InputDevice section name and
# optionally some options to specify the way the device is to be
# used. Those options include "CorePointer", "CoreKeyboard" and
# "SendCoreEvents".

InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"

EndSection
 
Old 12-30-2016, 11:00 AM   #6
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I did this:
Code:
unzip xsis.zip
This creates a directory xsis where I find three files:Readme.doc, xsis.rpm and xsis.tgz

As expected Readme.doc gives you instructions for installation.

Did you read it?

I do not know if the "unzip" command worked the same in Slackware 8.0 but you should be able to get and read Readme.doc anyway.
i unzip the file and extracted the file from the .tgz but Slackware doesn't even reocnize the driver file from the .tgz it says no file or directory
 
Old 12-30-2016, 11:12 AM   #7
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i unzip the file and extracted the file from the .tgz but Slackware doesn't even reocnize the driver file from the .tgz it says no file or directory
Did yu follow this procedure
Code:
2. Choose .tgz to install driver
    # tar -zxvf xsis.tgz
    # cp XSiS_SVGA /usr/X11R6/bin/.
    # ln -s -f /usr/X11R6/bin/XSiS_SVGA /etc/X11/X
    # xf86config (Option, see example in section 4)
    # startx
Note: SiS strongly recommand to run xf86config again before run "startx".
Here (Slackware 14.2) at least this works:
Code:
didier[~/Téléchargements/xsis]$ tar -xvzf xsis.tgz 
XSiS_SVGA
didier[~/Téléchargements/xsis]$ file XSiS_SVGA 
XSiS_SVGA: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, stripped, too many notes (256)
didier[~/Téléchargements/xsis]$ stat XSiS_SVGA 
  Fichier : 'XSiS_SVGA'
   Taille : 2979244     Blocs : 5824       Blocs d'E/S : 4096   fichier
Périphérique : 812h/2066d       Inœud : 2496826     Liens : 1
Accès : (0755/-rwxr-xr-x)  UID : ( 1000/  didier)   GID : (  100/   users)
 Accès : 2016-12-30 18:11:41.681344921 +0100
Modif. : 2000-02-17 10:07:55.000000000 +0100
Changt : 2016-12-30 18:11:41.753345261 +0100
  Créé : -
didier[~/Téléchargements/xsis]$
 
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I did this:
Code:
unzip xsis.zip
This creates a directory xsis where I find three files:Readme.doc, xsis.rpm and xsis.tgz

As expected Readme.doc gives you instructions for installation.

Did you read it?

I do not know if the "unzip" command worked the same in Slackware 8.0 but you should be able to get and read Readme.doc anyway.
that graphics card in the conf file is different to the card that's in my system because the configuration setup didn't have my exact card so that why I am trying to find the exact driver for my system
 
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Did yu follow this procedure
Code:
2. Choose .tgz to install driver
    # tar -zxvf xsis.tgz
    # cp XSiS_SVGA /usr/X11R6/bin/.
    # ln -s -f /usr/X11R6/bin/XSiS_SVGA /etc/X11/X
    # xf86config (Option, see example in section 4)
    # startx
Note: SiS strongly recommand to run xf86config again before run "startx".
Here (Slackware 14.2) at least this works:
Code:
didier[~/Téléchargements/xsis]$ tar -xvzf xsis.tgz 
XSiS_SVGA
didier[~/Téléchargements/xsis]$ file XSiS_SVGA 
XSiS_SVGA: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, stripped, too many notes (256)
didier[~/Téléchargements/xsis]$ stat XSiS_SVGA 
  Fichier : 'XSiS_SVGA'
   Taille : 2979244     Blocs : 5824       Blocs d'E/S : 4096   fichier
Périphérique : 812h/2066d       Inœud : 2496826     Liens : 1
Accès : (0755/-rwxr-xr-x)  UID : ( 1000/  didier)   GID : (  100/   users)
 Accès : 2016-12-30 18:11:41.681344921 +0100
Modif. : 2000-02-17 10:07:55.000000000 +0100
Changt : 2016-12-30 18:11:41.753345261 +0100
  Créé : -
didier[~/Téléchargements/xsis]$
yes i tried that but XSiS_SVGA is not reconized when i dir the directory of the file that is in it says no such file or directory
 
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yes i tried that but XSiS_SVGA is not reconized when i dir the directory of the file that is in it says no such file or directory
Thank you so much for trying to help me but I have to go and will be back later
 
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yes i tried that but XSiS_SVGA is not reconized when i dir the directory of the file that is in it says no such file or directory
Please post all the exact commands you typed.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Slackware 7 used xfree86 version 3, and the driver you downloaded is for slackware 7. Slackware 8 comes with xfree86 version 4, and a driver for sis. The module is here:
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/sis_drv.o

You can't use drivers for xfree86 version 3 with version 4. Use the driver that comes with slackware 8. I don't know how new you can go with slackware, but the driver is there in slackware 9 too, and did stick around for a long while. It got dropped at some point (I suspect due to kms), but the driver is nothing special. Likely your issue is your XF86Config.

I had a SiS630 on a motherboard, like 20 years ago...
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Slackware 7 used xfree86 version 3, and the driver you downloaded is for slackware 7. Slackware 8 comes with xfree86 version 4, and a driver for sis. The module is here:
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/sis_drv.o

You can't use drivers for xfree86 version 3 with version 4. Use the driver that comes with slackware 8. I don't know how new you can go with slackware, but the driver is there in slackware 9 too, and did stick around for a long while. It got dropped at some point (I suspect due to kms), but the driver is nothing special. Likely your issue is your XF86Config.

I had a SiS630 on a motherboard, like 20 years ago...
Slackware 8 doesn't have a driver for my card though I have looked everywhere for a driver
Update

that directory is a driver for my video card? /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/sis_drv.o
How do I install it then?

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Old 12-30-2016, 03:59 PM   #14
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Slackware 8 doesn't have a driver for my card though I have looked everywhere for a driver
Update

that directory is a driver for my video card? /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/sis_drv.o
How do I install it then?
It's already installed. I just checked, it's included in the package xfree86 shipped in Slackware 8 (this is just a confirmation):
Code:
didier[~/Téléchargements/xfree86]$ find -name sis_drv.o
./usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/sis_drv.o
didier[~/Téléchargements/xfree86]$
So, as the3dfxdude said, you should just check your settings. It could help you to read the chapter 6 The X Window System of the Slackware Book, shipped with Slackware 8.

PS I see that you posted the same question in the Newbie forum. Please ask each question in only one forum, possibly requesting a moderator to move it elsewhere it it doesn't get enough attention. Just click the Report button on your own post to do that.

Last edited by Didier Spaier; 12-30-2016 at 04:17 PM. Reason: PS added.
 
Old 12-30-2016, 06:57 PM   #15
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It's already installed. I just checked, it's included in the package xfree86 shipped in Slackware 8 (this is just a confirmation):
Code:
didier[~/Téléchargements/xfree86]$ find -name sis_drv.o
./usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/sis_drv.o
didier[~/Téléchargements/xfree86]$
So, as the3dfxdude said, you should just check your settings. It could help you to read the chapter 6 The X Window System of the Slackware Book, shipped with Slackware 8.

PS I see that you posted the same question in the Newbie forum. Please ask each question in only one forum, possibly requesting a moderator to move it elsewhere it it doesn't get enough attention. Just click the Report button on your own post to do that.
Thanks everyone for helping me I really appreciate it. I will report my post so a mod can move or possibly delete it.
the /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/sis_drv.o what command do I use to apply it so it can be used by X server do I have to edit my conf file and apply the file name directory or what. Sorry for asking this question I just didn't understand. Well I did run the xf86config but it doesn't show the sis_drv.o file in the program. If I type /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/sis_drv.o in the command line it says cannot execute binary file

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