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Old 09-17-2008, 02:48 PM   #31
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Yeah, this was the thread I was talking about. I do hope people submit more logos, if they are well done maybe try submitting them to the propaganda page (not that I've ever had anything accepted, but who knows maybe you'll have better luck).
 
Old 09-18-2008, 04:21 AM   #32
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Well then, here is mine.
 
Old 09-18-2008, 06:05 AM   #33
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You bring an important element into it, which is sales. If anything, I would think you'd want to adhere more to traditional concepts of brand identity when dealing with corporations, businesses, and so on. Doing that would most likely tend to increase sales in most situations, imo.
Perhaps in a traditional business model, yes. But we're not talking about anything like that here. We're talking about a product which is made available for free download, as well as being sold.

This is completely different to any of the traditional business models and ideals.
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If I were redesigning the logo, I therefore would probably do something like in this rough sketch (done last night on laptop, not very precise, would need adjusting, aligning, etc.) -- but just to give a general idea:

http://datalink.homelinux.com/slogo/..._logo-barz.png
And that's about as boring as batshit... I thought you were a professional??? No offence, but I'm glad you weren't consulted for the new logo...

What's wrong with adding some character or personality? The flippy logo has both of these in spades. Everyone else who has contributed a logo to this thread or others seems to think that Slackware should have a staid, boring logo. Grow a sense of humour people...
 
Old 09-18-2008, 07:26 AM   #34
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Perhaps in a traditional business model, yes. But we're not talking about anything like that here. We're talking about a product which is made available for free download, as well as being sold.

This is completely different to any of the traditional business models and ideals.

And that's about as boring as batshit... I thought you were a professional??? No offence, but I'm glad you weren't consulted for the new logo...

What's wrong with adding some character or personality? The flippy logo has both of these in spades. Everyone else who has contributed a logo to this thread or others seems to think that Slackware should have a staid, boring logo. Grow a sense of humour people...
Well, "boring" is in the eye of the beholder. If you understand anything about typography and design, it's actually not really that boring at all. In fact, I went to great lengths discussing the GPL nature of the typeface, why it was chosen, etc. as well as the reasons for all the other choices I made, including why I kept the original slackware typeface, which actually has a lot of personality and character. So maybe the problem, in fact, is that it's actually TOO professional for your tastes. In the "real world," a company would pay many thousands of dollars for that advice and for completing the development of the identity, including all the business cards, letterhead, logos, etc.

The point is that, while I might not be the greatest designer in the world, those choices are still made on the basis of solid design principles. The new slackware logo actually violates just about every rule of good design that exists -- and not in a good way! I can defend every one of my choices based on accepted principles of design. The new slack logo can't be defended by those principles -- it would be ripped to shreds in any design seminar I've ever been in. It's amateurish and ill-conceived. Thinking it's "good design," in my opinion, is a little like being a windows user and saying "linux is ugly and not user friendly at all. It has no personality, it's 'boring' -- just a command prompt staring back at you." When you're not educated on a topic and don't know what to look for, you think something that isn't as good is "better" or "not boring." Once you understand things with a little more background and depth, you can begin to appreciate good design and be able to distinguish good from bad. Until then, though, it's kind of like trying to explain to the stubborn windows user why they are "wrong." You don't really get anywhere because they don't have any background in using linux and refuse to "see the light."

thanks for the input, though, seriously. In the end it's all just opinion anyway. Who knows: you could be right, and hundreds of years of typography and graphic design could be wrong. People's opinions are just based on different criteria, is what it comes down to. cheers.

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Old 09-18-2008, 07:28 AM   #35
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And that's about as boring as batshit... I thought you were a professional??? No offence, but I'm glad you weren't consulted for the new logo...

What's wrong with adding some character or personality? The flippy logo has both of these in spades. Everyone else who has contributed a logo to this thread or others seems to think that Slackware should have a staid, boring logo. Grow a sense of humour people...
I hope you are kidding... how does the new SW logo have character and personality ? I think it is best described as:

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It looks like the kind of thing you would find on a $5 T-shirt at a souvenir stand. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the genesis for it. Pat was taking some time off this summer, saw one of these flipped logos on the boardwalk, and paid an artist that does them exclusively (was anyone else even aware there was a market for this?) to do one for Slack.
I would say that the only benefit it holds is for vampires, now they don't have to get off the ceiling to read it. Why not make the rest of the SW site that way ? That way we do not discriminate against vampires, they have rights too you know.

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Old 09-18-2008, 07:50 AM   #36
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There you go
 
Old 09-18-2008, 07:51 AM   #37
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The theme is simple:

1
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They were NOT done in MS Paint.

Please don't take my post seriously
 
Old 09-18-2008, 07:59 AM   #38
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There you go
hahaha - now THAT'S funny! good one.
 
Old 09-18-2008, 08:04 AM   #39
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When will people GET OVER THIS FFS??

I REALLY look forward to the day when I can visit LQ without seeing some stupid post or another about the new Slackware logo.

GET OVER IT.
You don't have to post about it ... might help you cool off.
 
Old 09-18-2008, 08:08 AM   #40
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The point is that those choices are made on the basis of solid design principles.
Exactly. There's no art in there at all. Any good designer will tell you that all great designs are part art, part science.
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In the end it's all just opinion anyway.
You've got that right!
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I hope you are kidding...
Nope.
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how does the new SW logo have character and personality?
Are you kidding me? All you have to do is look at how much "controversy" it has generated to see the answer to your question.
 
Old 09-18-2008, 08:08 AM   #41
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I just want the old logo (no need for a new one, IMHO), so that I can change "Slackwars" in my LQ profile back to "Slackware".
My 7-year old daughter, who has been using Slackware for three years,
just heard me laughing at your post and came to see "what's so funny?"

So I opened the Slackware home page, and showed her the new logo, and
asked, "What does that say?" She answered, "Slack wars." "What do you
think of the new logo?" She replied, "I hate it. I'm sorry -- I don't
think it's good."

Out of the mouth of babes ...
 
Old 09-18-2008, 08:12 AM   #42
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Ok, during that time I installed inkscape and made a new logo, it's now on my website (link in my sig), but as I know people have trouble accessing it, here it is on an image host:
http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?i...roundv2lt8.png

Oh, and I have also submitted this to the propaganda page.
What's "the propaganda page?" Link please ...
 
Old 09-18-2008, 08:21 AM   #43
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I think H_TeXMeX_H's looks mostly like this one:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/...slack_blue.jpg

That image is from the slack_blue bootsplash theme which I use.
You got that in a larger size -- say, 1680 X 1050 or so?

Or even 1440 X 900 for my new T61?
 
Old 09-18-2008, 08:28 AM   #44
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And would you translate zuiquan as "drunkard's boxing?"

 
Old 09-18-2008, 08:32 AM   #45
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Exactly. There's no art in there at all. Any good designer will tell you that all great designs are part art, part science.
Good design IS art. Ever see a house by Frank Lloyd Wright? architectural design becomes art.

Here are a couple of more or less random linkscheck these out:

http://www.johnnyflash.net/creativelogodesigns.php
http://www.bluemoonwebdesign.com/art-lessons.asp

and here, starting down at the "Contrast" section:
http://www.typography-1st.com/typo/prnc-des.shtml


If nothing else, this logo debate allows for a discussion of design: good, bad, strong, weak, different opinions, principles, etc. so that's a good thing.

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