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Old 07-16-2011, 01:21 PM   #16
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Alright, thunderbird 5 is included in -current branch.

To Pat: I don't deserve to be included into Changelog)) but thanks.

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Old 07-25-2011, 05:37 PM   #17
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Just a quick question: is there anything (a dependency?) preventing Thunderbird 5 from being in Slackware 13.37 -stable?
 
Old 07-30-2011, 08:49 AM   #18
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I realized in light of the previous posts that my question above is somewhat redundant.

I'll rephrase: what (if anything) is preventing Thunderbird 5 from being in the stable branch?
 
Old 07-30-2011, 10:12 AM   #19
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If it ain't security update, i doubt it will be merged into -Stable branch
 
Old 07-31-2011, 11:39 AM   #20
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Willysr,

Good point.

Regards,

-Drew
 
Old 07-31-2011, 02:12 PM   #21
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Firefox 5 does fix 8 security issues, 5 of which are labeled, "critical."

http://www.mozilla.org/security/know....html#firefox5

The color code didn't copy and paste so I've put an * beside the "critical" fixes.

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Fixed in Firefox 5.0.1
Firefox 5.0.1 addresses promblems with recent Mac OS X releases. It does not contain security fixes.

Fixed in Firefox 5
MFSA 2011-28 Non-whitelisted site can trigger xpinstall
MFSA 2011-27 XSS encoding hazard with inline SVG
*MFSA 2011-26 Multiple WebGL crashes
MFSA 2011-25 Stealing of cross-domain images using WebGL textures
*MFSA 2011-22 Integer overflow and arbitrary code execution in Array.reduceRight()
*MFSA 2011-21 Memory corruption due to multipart/x-mixed-replace images
*MFSA 2011-20 Use-after-free vulnerability when viewing XUL document with script disabled
*MFSA 2011-19 Miscellaneous memory safety hazards (rv:3.0/1.9.2.18)
"Critical: Vulnerability can be used to run attacker code and install software, requiring no user interaction beyond normal browsing."

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Old 08-04-2011, 06:16 PM   #22
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Firefox 5 does fix 8 security issues, 5 of which are labeled, "critical."
That's true for Firefox 5, but is the same true for Thunderbird 5 (the subject of this thread)?

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Old 08-04-2011, 06:39 PM   #23
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That's true for Firefox 5, but is the same true for Thunderbird 5 (the subject of this thread)?

Regards,
Oops. Sorry, senior moment, I guess.

Here you go, for what it's worth:

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Thunderbird 5 Contains Security Fixes

June 29th, 2011, 14:51 GMT| By Lucian Constantin

Thunderbird 5.0 released

Mozilla has released the next major version of its email client, Thunderbird 5.0, which contains several new features and enhacements, but also a bunch of security and stability fixes.

Thunderbird 5 landed a week after Firefox 5 and is the first Thunderbird release resulting from Mozilla's new rapid development cycle that aims produce a new stable version every six weeks.

The most important change in the new version is that it's based on Gecko 5, the same variant of Mozilla's layout engine used by Firefox 5 and, therefore, contains the same security fixes.

According to the release announcement, Thunderbird 5 includes "over 390 platform fixes that improve speed, performance, stability and security," however, no other details were released.

We can safely assume that the new version contains patches for the vulnerabilities addressed in Thunderbird 3.1.11 which was released last week together with Firefox 3.6.18.

It's not clear how much longer the 3.1 branch will be supported considering that it is already one year old. According to Mozilla's old development cycle, major releases used to be supported for a minimum of six months.

However, the company cut support for Firefox 4 once Firefox 5 came out despite the version being released on March 22 this year. This decision caused quite an uproar among enterprise Firefox adopters.

It's worth noting that Firefox 3.6 is still supported and that Thunderbird skipped over version 4 entirely, going directly from 3.1 to 5.0. It's also not clear if Thunderbird 5 will receive silent updates like Firefox 5, considering that Mozilla hasn't yet sorted out the compatibility issues for Thunderbird extensions.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Thund...s-208864.shtml

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Old 08-04-2011, 10:27 PM   #24
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Well, there you go. It seems that the Mozilla Foundation has moved ahead with updates, but is still supporting older versions and doesn't know what to do about compatibility with plug-ins.

It sounds like a mess in some ways.

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Old 08-17-2011, 07:26 AM   #25
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I see thunderbird 3.1.12 security update has been released upstream, so it doesn't look like TB 3.1 support is dead yet.

Too late for me though. I've already switched back to using Opera as my email client. I was already using it as my browser.
 
Old 08-17-2011, 07:27 PM   #26
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...I've already switched back to using Opera as my email client. I was already using it as my browser.
I like Opera Mail, i.e., the e-mail client, and it has greatly improved in recent years, but I have never figure out how to mass mail with it, without a great deal of hassle.
For example, in Thunderbird, what I've been using most recently, you can compose a message and then select those from your address book you would like to send it to, and then click on, "To" or "BCC" or "CC" and all the names are properly inserted into the header.
There is no way to do that, as far as I know, in Opera Mail. If there were, I would use it instead of Thunderbird.

BTW, Thunderbird 6.0, has been released by Mozilla.

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Old 08-18-2011, 05:39 AM   #27
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You can ctrl-click multiple recipients in the contacts panel and then click on compose, and there's also the 'add all contacts in folder' option, which I guess is Opera's equivalent to distribution-lists, but yes it probably can't be considered a full-featured mail solution.

If I wasn't using Opera as my browser I probably wouldn't use it for mail. It's a kill two birds with one stone thing for me, and for casual use it works well enough and has a good feel (though also a few rough edges).
 
Old 08-18-2011, 07:31 AM   #28
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You can ctrl-click multiple recipients in the contacts panel and then click on compose, and there's also the 'add all contacts in folder' option, which I guess is Opera's equivalent to distribution-lists, but yes it probably can't be considered a full-featured mail solution....
That is one way to get around the problem. Once you click on "compose" a new box pops up and, usually, all the addresses are highlighted on a single line. You can then right click and "copy" and then "paste" all the addresses into the addresses line on your previously written message. A real hard way around the problem.

BTW, I've used Opera since the the whole program fit on One 3 1/2 inch floppy disk (no joke), but I'm about to give up and switch to Firefox. The last few versions of Opera have been very flaky, especially here on linuxquestions.org. If I'm reading a post and decide to reply and hit the "wand" button, I'm signed on and then taken to the very first page of the site and have to work my way back to the Slackware forum and then to the topic and post I wanted to reply to. Opera also often, more often than not, crashes while reading this site. I've posted these problems on the Opera forum and they have, for the most part been ignored.

Now, with Firefox 5, Mozilla has "finally caught up" with some of Opera's features, and I've been using it more than Opera. The crew over at Opera seems to be more concerned with coming up with "new and wonderful features" than fixing their problems or, even, marketing their product. Too bad. They have always had a good product and have lead the field in "innovation" but have never understood how to market what was, IMHO, the best browser on the market and their attitude toward anyone trying to point out problems that need correction is negative to say the least. Oh, well, those are a couple of reasons why an otherwise good product has always ran in 3rd or 4th place. Well, now that Google has entered the game, make that 4th or 5th.

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Old 08-18-2011, 09:41 AM   #29
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For those who need the lastest version 6 of thunderbird 64 bits, the source for theirs languages can be downloaded from ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbir.../linux-x86_64/ .
I did extracted it to /opt and it works without visible issues.
 
Old 08-18-2011, 10:13 AM   #30
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I don't use fancy features like the wand, auto-completion, password managers and such like. They're usually the first things I turn-off. I haven't been using Opera as long as you have, I'm a recent convert (having tried past version and having always found something that makes then unsuitable), but I'm pretty happy with it in it's latest form. I've never seen it crash, but then I don't install flashplayer and I can't help but think that is the major cause of browser crashes as firefox also never seems to crash without it.

I've made a couple of bug reports (not on the forum, but using the 'report bug' link on the website) and all of them have been addressed within a release or two, so while they are certainly stubborn about some things (like not adding the pgp/gpg support that people have been crying out for, for years), the bugs I've reported did get fixed.

Everyone is different I guess and if Mozilla's stuff suits you better at the moment then all's well and good. At the moment Opera 11.50 suits me down to the ground - I just hope they don't go and ruin it.
 
  


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