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Old 11-28-2015, 06:49 AM   #31
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Roadmaps aren't fun. And I tend to take the word "deadline" literally. Line of death.
Yes I know that feeling.

Anyway no need to have detailed roadmaps online as long as it is clear whether something is ready for testing and that is clear now. I'll have a go and test on one of my laptops.
 
Old 11-28-2015, 08:24 AM   #32
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Yes I know that feeling.

Anyway no need to have detailed roadmaps online as long as it is clear whether something is ready for testing and that is clear now. I'll have a go and test on one of my laptops.
I'd say MLED 14.2 is not complete - some applications are missing - but it's definitely ready for testing.
 
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Old 11-29-2015, 02:56 PM   #33
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I'd say MLED 14.2 is not complete - some applications are missing - but it's definitely ready for testing.
Both the install process and MLED 14.2 itself work well for me. Only minor thing I've noticed so far is that the xfce-panel to set icons complains that it doesn't have the icon cache set for any of the icons. For screenshot to explain what I mean, see: http://i66.tinypic.com/8yymog.png

btw) Only thing that I personally miss for default MLED is a dark equivalent to Clearlooks-Phenix as XFCE dusk is horrible, but adding a dark theme is easy to fix. However in these dark themes your "Slackware logo" on the xfce-whisker menu button is very hard to see, so it might be worth using an icon that works in both light and dark themes?
 
Old 11-29-2015, 04:32 PM   #34
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Both the install process and MLED 14.2 itself work well for me. Only minor thing I've noticed so far is that the xfce-panel to set icons complains that it doesn't have the icon cache set for any of the icons. For screenshot to explain what I mean, see: http://i66.tinypic.com/8yymog.png
I honestly don't know what an icon cache is, does or is good for. I have the same warning in my icon theme selector, only that doesn't keep the theme from working correctly. Maybe the Slackware gurus have something more to say about that?



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btw) Only thing that I personally miss for default MLED is a dark equivalent to Clearlooks-Phenix as XFCE dusk is horrible, but adding a dark theme is easy to fix. However in these dark themes your "Slackware logo" on the xfce-whisker menu button is very hard to see, so it might be worth using an icon that works in both light and dark themes?
I know dark themes are popular, but I never use them, nor do my clients, so I didn't give a thought to the subject. This being said, you can easily add a darker theme yourself. MLED is already shipping sbopkg, so fire it up and install your favorite dark theme in less than a minute). As for the Application menu button, there's a light one at your disposal. Look in Whiskermenu's preferences, click on the button selector, and take a peek in Places > start-here. Check out the screenshot.

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Old 11-29-2015, 05:00 PM   #35
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MLED is already shipping sbopkg, so fire it up and install your favorite dark theme in less than a minute).
Actually sbopkg is missing in 14.2 at the moment, but I agree that adding a black theme myself is relatively easy.

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As for the Application menu button, there's a light one at your disposal. Look in Whiskermenu's preferences, click on the button selector, and take a peek in Places > start-here. Check out the screenshot.
Sorry I don't get this as I don't see that same icon as you see on the panel. For me it is somehow grey/black instead of the image you have and I don't seem to be able to change it using right-click on the button -> preferences. See screenshot for what I see: http://i65.tinypic.com/2mcyoap.png (this grey/black one gets lost on a dark theme)
 
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This is a great project. I will confess that I haven't gotten around to trying out MLED since stock Slackware seems to provide everything I require. The rest of the software on my systems are ruby programs/scripts I've written that have dependencies from the ruby gems repository, or applications not provided by MLED.

I suppose though if I ever have to install Linux for a relative or for friend that is not tech savvy, I would use MLED. MLED seems to handle all the time consuming configurations needed for such an installation.

Anyway, in your offline installation documentation, this part:
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First, delete your existing ˜/.config directory:

$ rm -rf ˜/config

Switch to root and copy /etc/skel/.config to your user's home directory:
Should read:

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$ rm -rf ~/.config
Thanks again
 
Old 11-30-2015, 12:57 AM   #37
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Actually sbopkg is missing in 14.2 at the moment, but I agree that adding a black theme myself is relatively easy.



Sorry I don't get this as I don't see that same icon as you see on the panel. For me it is somehow grey/black instead of the image you have and I don't seem to be able to change it using right-click on the button
Right-click on the menu > Preferences (or something similar in your language) > Check out the button icon > left-click on the icon button. And then choose what you prefer.
 
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This is a great project. I will confess that I haven't gotten around to trying out MLED since stock Slackware seems to provide everything I require. The rest of the software on my systems are ruby programs/scripts I've written that have dependencies from the ruby gems repository, or applications not provided by MLED.

I suppose though if I ever have to install Linux for a relative or for friend that is not tech savvy, I would use MLED. MLED seems to handle all the time consuming configurations needed for such an installation.

Anyway, in your offline installation documentation, this part:

Should read:



Thanks again
Corrected. Thanks!
 
Old 11-30-2015, 04:41 AM   #39
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I've added it to the requirements. But I've also added a section about the possibility of an offline installation.

http://www.microlinux.eu/faq.php#offline

Cheers,

Niki
Thanks for that, Niki!!!

However, it is not clear to me at which point in the default installation process (http://www.microlinux.eu/installation_guide.php) the off-line part (http://www.microlinux.eu/faq.php#offline) would plug-in...

It seems that is it supposed to be completed instead of "Download the Microlinux scripts", but then the next steps ("Configure slackpkg" and all the steps to the end) require network connection again.

Also, it would be helpful to provide the commands used to mount the media with the MLED package-collection and to enter the directory that holds all the packages to be installed. Some more detailed hints in that direction would be greatly appreciated, but I think it would be best to provide a complete off-line installation workflow on a separate page.
 
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Just out of curiosity: how many offline Slackers are there out there?
 
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Also, it would be helpful to provide the commands used to mount the media with the MLED package-collection and to enter the directory that holds all the packages to be installed. Some more detailed hints in that direction would be greatly appreciated, but I think it would be best to provide a complete off-line installation workflow on a separate page.
I wonder if the whole installation process is good as it is, or if it should come in the form of a downloadable ISO with a couple of installation scripts.

What do you think?
 
Old 11-30-2015, 10:09 AM   #42
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I wonder if the whole installation process is good as it is, or if it should come in the form of a downloadable ISO with a couple of installation scripts.

What do you think?
this would be comfortable:
boot iso, select language, make partition, install, reboot, login, work.
 
Old 11-30-2015, 10:12 AM   #43
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I wonder if the whole installation process is good as it is, or if it should come in the form of a downloadable ISO with a couple of installation scripts.

What do you think?
Well.... IMHO, it should come as a complete .iso. By "complete" I mean with the underlying Slackware base. I've read through your installation instructions several times over the years
and I'm just not going to jump through those hoops to install a Slackware derivative, regardless of how "good" it might be.

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Old 11-30-2015, 10:14 AM   #44
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Just out of curiosity: how many offline Slackers are there out there?
I am not off-line per se but wanting to convert as many friends as possible to MLED, sometimes I face the situation that a PC connects only through a WiFi-dongle or has a wireless card that needs a proprietary driver... So I cannot do much in such situations and that's why I repeatedly wish MLED would provide some self-contained installation media or at least a hacky way to perform the instal without relying on a functional network at that stage.

As my experience with modifying a Slackware installation this way is rather limited, and while I have to admit that I have been spoiled by the clearly described (and easy-to-follow) standard MLED installation process, I find the recent off-line additions not so unambiguous... And that makes me quite nervous to attempt it without more detailed instructions.
 
Old 11-30-2015, 10:21 AM   #45
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I am not off-line per se but wanting to convert as many friends as possible to MLED, sometimes I face the situation that a PC connects only through a WiFi-dongle or has a wireless card that needs a proprietary driver... So I cannot do much in such situations and that's why I repeatedly wish MLED would provide some self-contained installation media or at least a hacky way to perform the instal without relying on a functional network at that stage.

As my experience with modifying a Slackware installation this way is rather limited, and while I have to admit that I have been spoiled by the clearly described (and easy-to-follow) standard MLED installation process, I find the recent off-line additions not so unambiguous... And that makes me quite nervous to attempt it without more detailed instructions.
I admit the offline explanations are quite minimal, and some of it is left as an exercise to the reader. As for the wireless dongles or wifi cards: I often install laptops or netbooks for clients, and always use a cable to connect to the LAN switch to do the installation. Configuring the wireless card is the last thing I do, once everything else is in place. Does this solution not work for you?
 
  


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