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burdi01 02-08-2017 11:29 AM

Live Mate 1.1.6: No desktop icons
 
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http://bear.alienbase.nl/mirrors/sla...te-current.iso

I do not see the desktop icons, nor does rightclicking on the desktop have any discernable effect.

Am I the only one?
:D

Didier Spaier 02-08-2017 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by burdi01 (Post 5667257)
http://bear.alienbase.nl/mirrors/sla...te-current.iso

I do not see the desktop icons, nor does rightclicking on the desktop have any discernable effect.

Am I the only one?
:D

I can't answer this question. But it works here (in a VirtualBoxVM).

burdi01 02-09-2017 05:36 AM

Didier: Thank you for testing.

Once more I verified the md5sum to be correct.
I see the problem with VirtualBox as well as booted from a dd'ed-to USB stick, so no persistence and the like.
As I use english/USA as language and keyboard I tested with français as language and keyboard: problem persists.
I then found that the problem only occurs when logged-in as root, when logged-in as live things are ok.
I could not find something obvious in the log files.
I am pretty sure that with previous mate live CD's the problem did not occur. Alas I do not have a previous live CD any more, so I cannot verify ...
:D

willysr 02-09-2017 08:03 AM

probably because the xdg-user-dirs-update command was executed in user's environment and not in root

burdi01 02-09-2017 09:04 AM

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Booting the live CD to runlevel 3, logging in as root, executing xdg-user-dirs-update and then issuing startx did not have any discernable effect.

On my Slack64 Current XFCE + some Mate (caja etc) I downloaded the whole of slackware.uk/msb/current/1.17/x86_64/{deps,base,extra} and ran "upgradepkg --reinstall install-new" for the .txz files. Running "xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.mate-session" for root and burdi01 shows the same symptoms.
I attached the resultant /var/log/messages file (which contains all logging done; just remove the .txt extension) -- I see some warnings but no relevant (to me) failures ...
:D

Alien Bob 02-09-2017 09:40 AM

You realize that it is not recommended to run an X session as root? There is no guarantee that things work like they are supposed to work when you login as a normal user.
This does not only count for Gnome but also for KDE desktop environments

burdi01 02-09-2017 11:01 AM

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You realize that it is not recommended to run an X session as root?
Dear Eric,
I was expecting someone to come up with that argument ...
I think that whether or not running an X session as root should be frowned upon should warrant a separate discussion -- something along the lines of running a single user workstation versus a multiuser server ...
Kind regards, Dick (burdi01, aka DLCBurggraaff)

Alien Bob 02-09-2017 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burdi01 (Post 5667885)
Dear Eric,
I was expecting someone to come up with that argument ...
I think that whether or not running an X session as root should be frowned upon should warrant a separate discussion -- something along the lines of running a single user workstation versus a multiuser server ...
Kind regards, Dick (burdi01, aka DLCBurggraaff)

You got the meaning of my comment wrong. Just because it is not advised to run X as root, this scenario will not be among the test cases when developing software like Gnome or KDE, and if things break for root user, there will not be any incentive to fix the issue.
Your issue with missing icons is most likely a functional bug, but will it ever be solved? Probably not.

burdi01 02-09-2017 11:45 AM

Dear Eric:
I understand your argument.
Regards, Dick
:D

burdi01 02-10-2017 04:03 AM

Well, caja has 152 open bugs -- https://github.com/mate-desktop/caja/issues/ ...
I opened the 153d one.
:D

willysr 02-10-2017 06:00 AM

and it goes down to 152 again now :)

burdi01 02-10-2017 07:06 AM

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and it goes down to 152 again now
Yeah, it was shot down within the hour.
:(

willysr 02-10-2017 10:09 AM

AlienBOB told you it was a bad idea to run as root and the developer said the same thing, so it's obvious. It must be avoided

burdi01 02-11-2017 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by willysr (Post 5668368)
... was a bad idea to run as root... It must be avoided

Dear Willy:
For a single-user workstation system type (as opposed to a multi-user server one) I respectfully disagree.
Anyway, I rest my case.
Regards, Dick
:D

willysr 02-11-2017 06:54 AM

my system is also single-user and i still use normal account instead of root


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