To answer the OP, wayland seems interesting but far off. If it worked and my core set of programs worked with it, I would not be upset. Additionally, Upstart is nice only because it has process monitoring which would be the only reason to switch from Slackware's current init system.

On the topic in general however, It seems the one down fall to, what people recognizably call, Linux that the OSes always have to consider not only the trends but the ability to be backwards compatible. Not to mention the software it self being backwards compatible.

Wayland seems like a great idea, but it's going to go anywhere if it doesn't contain support for X long through its stable and replacement phases.

This flowing stream of software projects all relying on eachother, and lack of funding, hinders radical changes that may be 100 times better than what exists. Undoubtedly, a project like wayland could be far better if it was funded by a corporation, had a new target OS and outlet, and had a set of solid software based on its platform. Supporting X just hinders progress from developing in a new direction however similar the goals may be.

Who reboots? I can't see any reason for upstart at all. Wayland sounds interesting, but honestly, if I lose compatibility with my apps and drivers then no thanks. ConsoleKit and pollkitd, what are they actually needed for again? I have them disabled and haven't noticed any issues while running fluxbox.

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Actually, I already have a 10 second boot with slackware. I don't think I care about going any faster by using upstart.

I've got 13, good enough for me!

GRUB 2 is one Linux trend that I hope does not become part of Slackware.

Oh, HELL no! Even GRUB(1?) would be far better, though I''m just fine with LILO!

Really? It actually works pretty well on my machines. I had to add an additional script in /etc/grub.d that took into account how slackware's initrd and kernels work rather than debian's way. YMMV.

You said that perfectly. I have little interest in how long my pc takes to boot as long as it does so correctly. I use Slackware only on my netbook. No problems with it and my desktop stays on all the time.

i just let slackware team decide after all.

Most of my shirts and pants I have had for a couple of years, some even longer. They feel good and still look nice. I ain't too trendy.

My thoughts exactly. Patrick has a proven track record for choosing applications that work with Slackware. I trust his judgment.

In truth, I used Grub for years when I was running Debian and never once had the slightest problem. But I'm fine with Lilo, too.

As for trends, who gives a crap?

That's true, but feedback is usually a good thing.

I find this thread to be really interesting and I thought I might add my $.02 here. I have been a solid Ubuntu user for 3+ years now and have recently decided that it is time to look at another distribution. There isn't any one reason for the decision, but several small ones. Ubuntu and variants, like Mint, seems to be on a mission to chase after the Windows users and bring Linux to the masses. While this may (or not) be a laudable goal, I find myself self deviating from the Ubuntu mindset. I have found that the recent versions of Ubuntu have become "buggy" with several things that used to work are now broken. As I have gained more experience with Linux, I find that I am both looking for more of a (learning) challenge than I am getting with Ubuntu and feel it is time to try something new. What finally drove me over the edge was the decision to go with Wayland and Unity for the desktop, which are the default in the Netbook edition. After purchasing a Netbook in May, I tried it briefly and uninstalled it in favor of a traditional X + Gnome version after about a day. It was too simplistic for my tastes and my impression was that it was geared towards the user who wants to watch videos, browse the Internet, and read email, but not engage in more serious endeavors.

After spending several hours reading about the different distributions and trying a few live CDs, I have decided to install Slackware on one of my systems and give it an honest try. Just last night, I went through he process of creating and verifying the CDs and I am planning on installing it tonight. One of the things that appealed to me about Slackware is its dedication to the fundamentals and I hope that this tradition continues for a while.

Welcome to Slackware, Norway2. I've got some tutorials on installing and configuring slackware that might ease the trail a bit for you. I'll link the installation tutorial; the rest are linked from there:

http://genek.net/LinuxAdventures/ins...allation1.html

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