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Old 07-07-2017, 09:45 AM   #16
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I'll tell you something: these "reputable specialists" are simply meteorologists, who have gone out of hungry inventing something stupid, but of effect.

The Earth goes through heating and cooling cycles. For billions of years. Next on is an Ice Age, on thousand years.

And it will continue like this, another billion years, when it will become like Venus, due to the Sun's rise...
 
Old 07-07-2017, 09:54 AM   #17
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I'll tell you something: these "reputable specialists" are simply meteorologists, who have gone out of hungry inventing something stupid, but of effect.

The Earth goes through heating and cooling cycles. For billions of years. Next on is an Ice Age, on thousand years.

And it will continue like this, another billion years, when it will become like Venus, due to the Sun's rise...
No, the earth has not gone through this kind of change anytime in the last 4 million years at least.
Check out this page http://www.popsci.com/xkcd-earth-ave...imeline#page-3 or the referenced XKCD page for a graphic illustration.
 
Old 07-07-2017, 09:59 AM   #18
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Wow Unity desktop environment used the most ram. RIP
 
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Old 07-07-2017, 10:01 AM   #19
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Seems Darth Vader doesn't quite understand that such environmental devastation as clear cutting tropical rainforests or the use of CFCs to name a few examples has on the climate and ecosystems. Anyways, this topic is about ram, not environmental science. So I will add that I'm glad slackware was not included in such a silly list.
 
Old 07-07-2017, 11:34 AM   #20
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Well, this topic devolved quickly...
 
Old 07-07-2017, 01:11 PM   #21
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Do not post if you do not have anything constructive to say in the post.
Stay on topic or the thread will be closed...
 
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Old 07-07-2017, 01:37 PM   #22
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Darth Vader, please refrain from derailing technical threads moving forward. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly.

--jeremy
 
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Old 07-07-2017, 02:18 PM   #23
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Glad to see many environmental scientists here.
 
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Old 07-07-2017, 09:32 PM   #24
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Might a delete of posts improve this thread?
 
Old 07-07-2017, 10:56 PM   #25
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Given those figures I must have stuffed something up somewhere along the line. Although I've disabled all I can and haven't enabled any additional services.

htop shows 1.24GB used - slack 14.2, KDE. Firefox, Terminal, Dolphin, and Skype running.

Firefox: ~315MB
Web: ~256
Plasma Desktop: ~86MB
Skypeforlinux: ~38MB

Ouch.
 
Old 07-07-2017, 11:46 PM   #26
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Its worth remembering that some programs like firefox will use more ram if its available.
 
Old 07-08-2017, 01:05 AM   #27
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True - but even straight after booting I've noticed Slackware uses a fair bit more resources than Debian.

It's a moot point really anyway, it seems heaps snappier even with KDE/plasma. I should have switched years ago.
 
Old 07-08-2017, 01:35 AM   #28
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Like others said, that is the result of the software and hardware being run, not the distro. As you demonstrated, its easy to change out the default desktop environment or even using just a window manager. Slackware includes several choices out of the box and there are even more ready to be built at SBo. Personally I use a minimal tiling wm (Spectrwm) and my desktop experience is quite fast.
 
Old 07-08-2017, 02:45 AM   #29
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Well as I said, it seems faster than my old Deb install even using KDE so it's no wonder something like Fluxbox, XFCE or yes Spectrwm would be faster still

I don't know what other services I can get rid of. So far the only rc's loaded at boot (ignoring rc.S etc) are acpid, alsa, cgproxy, cgmanager, consolekit, firewallrules, fuse, gpm, and the logging deamons and udev. I've disabled execute permissions on all the others.

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Old 07-08-2017, 03:21 AM   #30
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If you're interested in monitoring your memory usage, I found this python script with a quick search.

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/pi...ster/ps_mem.py
https://askubuntu.com/questions/9642...ge/62351#62351

It prints out the memory usage by program, for example.
Code:
 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program

  4.0 KiB +  14.5 KiB =  18.5 KiB	inetd
  4.0 KiB +  14.5 KiB =  18.5 KiB	haveged
  4.0 KiB +  24.0 KiB =  28.0 KiB	startx
  4.0 KiB +  27.5 KiB =  31.5 KiB	xinit
 12.0 KiB +  20.5 KiB =  32.5 KiB	cgmanager
  8.0 KiB +  36.0 KiB =  44.0 KiB	sshd
  0.0 KiB +  46.0 KiB =  46.0 KiB	sh (2)
  4.0 KiB +  45.0 KiB =  49.0 KiB	guix-daemon
  8.0 KiB +  48.0 KiB =  56.0 KiB	dbus-launch
  8.0 KiB +  48.5 KiB =  56.5 KiB	dmenu-bind.sh (2)
 36.0 KiB +  20.5 KiB =  56.5 KiB	atd
 48.0 KiB +  14.0 KiB =  62.0 KiB	init
 48.0 KiB +  15.5 KiB =  63.5 KiB	gpm
 80.0 KiB +  13.0 KiB =  93.0 KiB	klogd
 20.0 KiB +  82.5 KiB = 102.5 KiB	console-kit-daemon
100.0 KiB +  20.0 KiB = 120.0 KiB	syslogd
 88.0 KiB +  34.5 KiB = 122.5 KiB	yeahconsole
 20.0 KiB + 107.5 KiB = 127.5 KiB	polkitd
124.0 KiB +  18.0 KiB = 142.0 KiB	acpid
 40.0 KiB + 117.5 KiB = 157.5 KiB	agetty (5)
124.0 KiB +  40.5 KiB = 164.5 KiB	crond
 92.0 KiB + 137.5 KiB = 229.5 KiB	tmux: client
  8.0 KiB + 230.5 KiB = 238.5 KiB	script-fu
188.0 KiB +  65.0 KiB = 253.0 KiB	xbindkeys
272.0 KiB +  82.5 KiB = 354.5 KiB	tee
400.0 KiB +  33.5 KiB = 433.5 KiB	dhcpcd
324.0 KiB + 183.5 KiB = 507.5 KiB	at-spi-bus-launcher
568.0 KiB +  72.5 KiB = 640.5 KiB	ntpd
452.0 KiB + 233.0 KiB = 685.0 KiB	at-spi2-registryd
588.0 KiB + 176.0 KiB = 764.0 KiB	tmux: server
592.0 KiB + 266.0 KiB = 858.0 KiB	dbus-daemon (3)
856.0 KiB + 225.0 KiB =   1.1 MiB	gpg-agent
  1.5 MiB +  96.0 KiB =   1.5 MiB	udevd
  1.3 MiB + 412.5 KiB =   1.7 MiB	xscreensaver
  1.7 MiB + 328.5 KiB =   2.0 MiB	gnome-keyring-daemon
  1.7 MiB + 719.5 KiB =   2.4 MiB	dunst
  1.8 MiB + 713.5 KiB =   2.5 MiB	ssh
  3.0 MiB + 259.5 KiB =   3.2 MiB	spectrwm
  3.7 MiB + 849.0 KiB =   4.5 MiB	ripperX
  6.6 MiB +   1.8 MiB =   8.4 MiB	bash (11)
 25.6 MiB + 448.0 KiB =  26.0 MiB	rtorrent main
 26.1 MiB +   1.1 MiB =  27.2 MiB	emacs-25.2-with-x11
 28.2 MiB +   1.3 MiB =  29.5 MiB	urxvtd
 37.4 MiB +   3.8 MiB =  41.2 MiB	gimp-2.8
 43.2 MiB +   6.6 MiB =  49.8 MiB	deadbeef-gtkui
 36.1 MiB +  33.0 MiB =  69.1 MiB	Xorg
 77.2 MiB +   1.5 MiB =  78.7 MiB	gdb
 65.0 MiB +  15.6 MiB =  80.6 MiB	mpsyt (2)
100.3 MiB + 252.5 KiB = 100.6 MiB	autocutsel (2)
412.8 MiB +   5.1 MiB = 417.8 MiB	spacefm
414.4 MiB +   6.6 MiB = 421.0 MiB	dolphin-emu
  1.1 GiB +  34.9 MiB =   1.1 GiB	firefox
---------------------------------
                          2.4 GiB
That said, I think if you have the ram to use you may as well use it.
 
  


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