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Old 07-19-2013, 07:09 AM   #16
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The main reason I turned away from openSUSE was the infamous deal with Microsoft a few years ago. And honestly, after some time, I get tired of the DO NOT EDIT THIS BY HAND nonsense, even if everything works OK.
I will have to read up on "the deal", which flew by under my radar at the time, it (my radar) not being tweaked for messages echoing out of the Linux world at the time.

Sharing a distaste for Microsoft's lax "sexual" ethics (bed-sharing), I can see even before reading about it (the deal) that such would be a turn off for me too.

Given that, would you have another "dream linux distro (of those available) running fleet-footedly under KDE" to recommend that I try?
 
Old 07-19-2013, 10:19 AM   #17
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Given that, would you have another "dream linux distro (of those available) running fleet-footedly under KDE" to recommend that I try?
I've been using Debian Squeeze/KDE 4.4.5 for some time. I guess Wheezy/KDE 4.8.5 should be a fine choice. Debian's KDE is as modular as it can get, and there's even a metapackage (kde-plasma-desktop IIRC) for installing just the bare minimum.

Besides that, you could probably give PCLinuxOS a spin, especially the KDE MiniME edition.

Some of my guru friends are running Kubuntu, which makes me say that it can't be all that bad, but I could never warm up to it.

Or just use Slackware with AlienBob's KDE.
 
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:32 AM   #18
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I've been using Debian Squeeze/KDE 4.4.5 for some time. I guess Wheezy/KDE 4.8.5 should be a fine choice. Debian's KDE is as modular as it can get, and there's even a metapackage (kde-plasma-desktop IIRC) for installing just the bare minimum.

Besides that, you could probably give PCLinuxOS a spin, especially the KDE MiniME edition.

Some of my guru friends are running Kubuntu, which makes me say that it can't be all that bad, but I could never warm up to it.

Or just use Slackware with AlienBob's KDE.
Thanks for the array of choices.
(I have xfce running nicely again for the moment; when I have explored that some more, I'll give kde another go on a another OS)
 
Old 08-22-2013, 09:23 PM   #19
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Speaking of Kubuntu, kubuntu has a package called kubuntu-low-fat-settings, which disables a lot of setting that some people might not need or use. It's quite nice actually. It'd be nice to have something similar in slackware.
 
Old 08-22-2013, 09:36 PM   #20
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There's always the option of the Trinity desktop which is based off of KDE3.

http://www.trinitydesktop.org/
 
Old 08-23-2013, 01:21 AM   #21
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Or you can try the Microlinux Enterprise Workstation, based on Slackware 14.0 and a trimmed-down/beefed-up KDE 4.10.5:

http://www.kikinovak.net/index.php?tag/workstation

Enjoy!
 
Old 08-23-2013, 09:55 PM   #22
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Or you can try the Microlinux Enterprise Workstation, based on Slackware 14.0 and a trimmed-down/beefed-up KDE 4.10.5:

http://www.kikinovak.net/index.php?tag/workstation

Enjoy!
It installed easily, but it does not seem to have network managet installed. Is there a package I can manaully install?
 
Old 08-23-2013, 10:20 PM   #23
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It installed easily, but it does not seem to have network managet installed. Is there a package I can manaully install?
I've never used that distro, but being based off Slackware, it probably incorporates the same or similar views. In Slackware, Network manager is installed, but it isn't enabled by default. Try running the below command as root (su)
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chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.networkmanager
If network manager is installed, then this command will start it at boot.
If it's not installed then you should be able to grab the packages with slackpkg.
enable a mirror in your /etc/slackpkg/mirrors file and run
Code:
slackpkg install networkmanager
There will likely be dependencies missing from installing like this. If you have to install with slackpkg and do the above command and network manager doesn't function correctly, then go to slackbuilds.org, look up network manager for version 13.37 and note down all the dependencies needed to get it running from there. That should give you an idea of what additional packages you need to install with slackpkg.

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I regard xfce as modular, because for example, you can run xfce4-panel without the rest of xfce, in kde if you so desire. The opposite; running a kde panel without the rest of kde, can't be run in xfce.
Kde uses a shell, the plasma-desktop. As far as i'm aware, there is no way to separate what manages the backgrounds from the widgets, from the panel, ect, (although the window manager can be, i'll give it that).
How exactly is kde regarded as modular?




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Old 08-23-2013, 10:45 PM   #24
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I generally prefer KDE applications, but I almost never use KDE itself; too much bloat.
I like a lot of the KDE applications, and happily run them in XFce. I am pretty much sold on XFce.
 
Old 08-23-2013, 10:46 PM   #25
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Talking

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I've never used that distro, but being based off Slackware, it probably incorporates the same or similar views. In Slackware, Network manager is installed, but it isn't enabled by default. Try running the below command as root (su)
Code:
chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.networkmanager
If network manager is installed, then this command will start it at boot.
If it's not installed then you should be able to grab the packages with slackpkg.
enable a mirror in your /etc/slackpkg/mirrors file and run
Code:
slackpkg install networkmanager
There will likely be dependencies missing from installing like this. If you have to install with slackpkg and do the above command and network manager doesn't function correctly, then go to slackbuilds.org, look up network manager for version 13.37 and note down all the dependencies needed to get it running from there. That should give you an idea of what additional packages you need to install with slackpkg.

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I regard xfce as modular, because for example, you can run xfce4-panel without the rest of xfce, in kde if you so desire. The opposite; running a kde panel without the rest of kde, can't be run in xfce.
Kde uses a shell, the plasma-desktop. As far as i'm aware, there is no way to separate what manages the backgrounds from the widgets, from the panel, ect, (although the window manager can be, i'll give it that).
How exactly is kde regarded as modular?




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I got wicd installed for tonight to get me online. I'll try this in the morning and see if I can get network manager working. I prefer network manager anyway.
 
Old 08-23-2013, 10:47 PM   #26
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Just flying under the radar

http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/view...p?f=89&t=34967

as usual.
 
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Old 08-23-2013, 11:17 PM   #27
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Wow, they've really got some beautiful looking themes going over on Mepis. I switched from Kde to Mate a while back, and not long ago, from Mate to Gnome. Looking at that, almost makes me want to come back to Kde. Can be a bit of a sucker for eye candy sometimes; i've always been a big fan of kwin.
 
Old 08-23-2013, 11:44 PM   #28
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I switched from Kde to Mate a while back, and not long ago, from Mate to Gnome.
Mate is very nice, I like what chess is doing. Gnome 2.x is very nice; Gnome 3.x not so much(just my opinion). For the time being I will stick with XFce4.
 
Old 08-24-2013, 02:45 AM   #29
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It installed easily, but it does not seem to have network managet installed. Is there a package I can manaully install?
I'm right now deciding between KDE Networkmanagement or the GTK applet. In the meantime, you can use AlienBob's package. I'll keep you posted.
 
Old 08-24-2013, 04:35 AM   #30
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Mate is very nice, I like what chess is doing. Gnome 2.x is very nice; Gnome 3.x not so much(just my opinion). For the time being I will stick with XFce4.
To be honest i'de stopped using Slackware, before Chess begun working on Mate, but previously i used the Mate packages from Salix under Slackware 14, and they worked very nicely. At the time i was trying to integrate kwin with Mate, and for some reason, it rose the fans on my laptop really bad, which reduced my battery quite a lot. On the other hand when i did the same on Debian, I didn't experience this, but instead kwin messed up the menu display on Mate; which i never experienced on Slack. I never found a happy combination of kwin and Mate (even though kwin played nicely with Gnome2). Using Marco however, the Salix packages were quite nice. I would imagine the Slackbuild would be just as nice.
I'm aware of the dislike of Gnome shell by many people. I use several extensions and am quite happy. The main reason i've begun using Gnome is the activities button hover/hot corner feature. I've configued my activities button (with an extension) to show the programs i've installed, by default, rather than show the open applications. I like the hover fullscreen hover menu; and i use the 'dock to dash' extension to display the dash at all times, which i use as my task manager. I like it, and when i used to use kde, i configured it to work much the same, with a panel on the left, and a hot corner that enabled the 'dash board' of several widgets, one the folder view, with all my favorite programs.
I've had to change a couple work habits since switching to Gnome shell, but it suits me, and i like it. Setting it up the way i like it was a harder than on kde, but i like it now. I can definitely understand why others wouldn't like it. I almost thought it was not possible to set the applications view as the default view of activities, and if that was the case, that alone would be a deal breaker for me.

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I'm right now deciding between KDE Networkmanagement or the GTK applet. In the meantime, you can use AlienBob's package. I'll keep you posted.
I use the gtk interface. In the past the gtk version worked better, and while they're on par now; to connect to my mobile broadband, it requires one extra click on the qt version.
 
  


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