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rng 11-11-2015 08:24 PM

Libreoffice on slackware
 
What is best way to install Libreoffice on Slackware? Its a large package so building it from Slackbuilds is likely to take long time on my slowish machine.

frankbell 11-11-2015 08:29 PM

I use Alien Bob's Slackbuild. http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slac...s/libreoffice/

It's the easiest way I've found.

willysr 11-11-2015 09:06 PM

or use repackaged rpm binary from upstream in SBo: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/14...e/libreoffice/

Arcosanti 11-11-2015 10:21 PM

How good is Libre Office compared to Open Office these days? The last time I used it was back in 2011 and I was not impressed with it then. Open Office was better then.

bamunds 11-11-2015 10:22 PM

Rhetorical question coming.... Why does everyone always ask about LibreOffice, when Apache OpenOffice is the original open source product and works well on Slackware for 32 and 64 bit, also from http://slackbuilds.org/repository/14...penoffice.org/, OpenOffice the original open source alternative to that other massive proprietary suite.

Personal preference, but also more stable and less frequently updated. To me LibreOffice is too frequently updated and not as backward compatible with my original OpenOffice databases. The support on OpenOffice is still strong and they cleanup and update features regularly.

Really, this is a rhetorical question, I'm not looking for debate, just suggesting there is a smaller size OpenOffice suite, which is just as capable as LibreOffice and IMHO more stable. "Hey Mikey, Try it you'll like it!"

kikinovak 11-11-2015 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bamunds (Post 5448392)
Rhetorical question coming.... Why does everyone always ask about LibreOffice, when Apache OpenOffice is the original open source product and works well on Slackware for 32 and 64 bit, also from http://slackbuilds.org/repository/14...penoffice.org/, OpenOffice the original open source alternative to that other massive proprietary suite.

Personal preference, but also more stable and less frequently updated. To me LibreOffice is too frequently updated and not as backward compatible with my original OpenOffice databases. The support on OpenOffice is still strong and they cleanup and update features regularly.

Really, this is a rhetorical question, I'm not looking for debate, just suggesting there is a smaller size OpenOffice suite, which is just as capable as LibreOffice and IMHO more stable. "Hey Mikey, Try it you'll like it!"

Because all the OpenOffice developers left the project and went to LibreOffice. If you want something rock-solid, use the stable version (currently 4.4.6). Otherwise, go for the latest (currently 5.0.3). The two versions are packaged in my repos: 4.4.6 in the 14.1 tree, 5.0.3 in the 14.2 tree.

Cheers,

Niki

drgibbon 11-12-2015 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bamunds (Post 5448392)
Personal preference, but also more stable and less frequently updated. To me LibreOffice is too frequently updated and not as backward compatible with my original OpenOffice databases. The support on OpenOffice is still strong and they cleanup and update features regularly.

I don't know about database support, but there is LibreOffice Still (slow release), and LibreOffice Fresh (fast release).

bassmadrigal 11-12-2015 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bamunds (Post 5448392)
Rhetorical question coming.... Why does everyone always ask about LibreOffice, when Apache OpenOffice is the original open source product and works well on Slackware for 32 and 64 bit, also from http://slackbuilds.org/repository/14...penoffice.org/, OpenOffice the original open source alternative to that other massive proprietary suite.

Personal preference, but also more stable and less frequently updated. To me LibreOffice is too frequently updated and not as backward compatible with my original OpenOffice databases. The support on OpenOffice is still strong and they cleanup and update features regularly.

Really, this is a rhetorical question, I'm not looking for debate, just suggesting there is a smaller size OpenOffice suite, which is just as capable as LibreOffice and IMHO more stable. "Hey Mikey, Try it you'll like it!"

I know you said it is rhetorical, but it really didn't seem to be.

To build off what Niki said, Apache OpenOffice (what it is officially called) is also limited in license, in that it can't take from LibreOffice. LibreOffice is free to use code from OpenOffice, so they get the features they code, plus the features that OpenOffice introduces.

LibreOffice development moves much faster than OpenOffice's, but whether that is a good or bad thing is up to you to decide.

How-To Geek has a great article on it detailing the history and possible future of the two. Here is an excerpt covering the license issues:

Quote:

The sidebar in OpenOffice is an entirely new feature the Apache OpenOffice project has added to OpenOffice. On the other hand, the experimental sidebar in LibreOffice looks basically identical to OpenOffice’s sidebar.

This isn’t an accident. OpenOffice’s sidebar code was copied and incorporated into LibreOffice. The Apache OpenOffice project uses the Apache License, while the LibreOffice uses a dual LGPLv3 / MPL license. The practical result is LibreOffice can take OpenOffice’s code and incorporate it into LibreOffice — the licenses are compatible.

On the other hand, LibreOffice has some features — like font embedding — that don’t appear in OpenOffice. This is because the two different licenses only allow a one-way transfer of code. LibreOffice can incorporate OpenOffice’s code, but OpenOffice can’t incorporate LibreOffice’s code. This is the result of the different licenses the projects chose.

In the long run, this means that big improvements to OpenOffice can be incorporated into LibreOffice, while big improvements to LibreOffice can’t be incorporated into OpenOffice. This clearly gives a big advantage to LibreOffice, which will develop quicker and incorporate more features and improvements.

solarfields 11-12-2015 06:28 AM

I use LibreOffice because of better compatibility with Microsoft Office files. Also, I would recommend using AlienBob's stable package. The newest version (5.*) has some issues, for example not always showing figure legends.

gegechris99 11-12-2015 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by solarfields (Post 5448522)
I would recommend using AlienBob's stable package. The newest version (5.*) has some issues, for example not always showing figure legends.

Please note that the version of LibreOffice that can be installed using AlineBob packages depends on your Slackware version:

If you run Slackware 14.1, you can only install LibreOffice 4.4.5 (LibreOffice Still)
If you run Slackware -current, you can install LibreOffice 5.0.2 (LibreOffice Fresh) or 4.4.5 as AlienBob remarked in one of his blog post:

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The 4.4.5 packages should also work on -current, but I have not tested that.

AlleyTrotter 11-12-2015 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by gegechris99 (Post 5448545)
Please note that the version of LibreOffice that can be installed using AlineBob packages depends on your Slackware version:

If you run Slackware 14.1, you can only install LibreOffice 4.4.5 (LibreOffice Still)
If you run Slackware -current, you can install LibreOffice 5.0.2 (LibreOffice Fresh) or 4.4.5 as AlienBob remarked in one of his blog post:

Alienbob's slackbuild for Libreoffice 5.0.2.2 builds on a clean fresh install of Slackware64-14.1 without issue. I update and re-compile each and every time Alien offers a new slackbuild.
HTH
John

bamunds 11-12-2015 10:16 AM

IF you did a full standard install (as recommended) there is the installed KDE Suite which includes Calligra, Kexi, Krita, and other office applications, so you don't have to install LibreOffice or Apache OpenOffice. Calligra can read Microsoft documents and save to the opensource standards for Microsoft users to open. Or if you want to keep it locked you can always print to pdf file and send the pdf to them. Calligra can be used in any "X" based window manager or desktop environment.

ReaperX7 11-12-2015 10:21 AM

Most people prefer the layout of Libre and OpenOffice rather than Calligra's, but honestly, just use the SBo package for easier dealings for LibreOffice.

kikinovak 11-12-2015 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by solarfields (Post 5448522)
I use LibreOffice because of better compatibility with Microsoft Office files.

Big fat caveat on DOCX files. If you modify them with LibreOffice, you might have some nasty surprises in the form of severe data loss. I had this problem with a couple of clients, and I'm not issuing warnings about this. On the other hand, the LibreOffice developers have already done a nice job, since DOCX is not exactly a documented format. :)

kikinovak 11-12-2015 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gegechris99 (Post 5448545)
Please note that the version of LibreOffice that can be installed using AlineBob packages depends on your Slackware version:

If you run Slackware 14.1, you can only install LibreOffice 4.4.5 (LibreOffice Still)
If you run Slackware -current, you can install LibreOffice 5.0.2 (LibreOffice Fresh) or 4.4.5 as AlienBob remarked in one of his blog post:

Here's LibreOffice 5.0.3 for either Slackware 14.1 or Slackware 14.2:

Language and helpfile packs for german and french are in the same repositories. I've simply repackaged LibreOffice.org's binaries for Slackware.

Cheers,

Niki


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