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Old 12-10-2013, 02:47 AM   #16
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As I've previously said I'm running on old hardware with a P4. My machine can become cpu bound - plenty of memory available.

1.
AlienBob's version of 4.1.3.2 has problems with dialogs in that they seem to get stuck, especially the format cells dialog in calc which just appeared empty. To resolve I s had to give it a nudge by clicking inside the dialog at an appropriate place! Also forms, in base, were a real problem I'd open a form an two versions of the same form would appear, hang there for about 5 seconds then one would disappear.

2.
The RPM version from Libreoffice build from slackbuild.org was better, the dialogs didn't require nudging.The forms, in base, still had the same problems.

My present hypothesis is that the form gets built in a arbitrary position and size at the same time as building the same form according to the attributes contained in a config file held somewhere in ~/.config/libreoffice/4/user. When both forms are built it throws away the arbitrarily built one.

I've tested it on windows XP and it behaves in the same way as the RPM version above though appreciably faster.

I'm sure the above explanation helps no one but at least it is recorded for all to see!

If this doesn't resolve itself in the next version of Libreoffice I will raise a bug report. Though I suspect if I run it on more modern hardware I might not see an issue.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 07:34 PM   #17
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The new libreoffice 4.1.4 packages that AlienBob put out don't really help, even though there was supposed to be a patch to fix it. The file dialogs are now slow in a different way. If I click the "up" arrow or on a directory, the "waiting" mouse pointer will come up for around 10 seconds before actually changing. I'm reverting to 4.0.5. I don't know how they can screw up a file manager so badly, but they have.
 
Old 12-21-2013, 04:30 AM   #18
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I've still got problems with AlienBob's version of Libreoffice the

1.
Format Cell Dialog in calc - totally unusable - displays completely transparent with just a border. If one clicks around randomly within the border various functionality reveals itself

2.
The security dialog in Tools -> Options -> Libreoffice -> Security -> Macro Security -> Trusted Sources has converted
Code:
/home/alex/Documents/openoffice
to
Code:
/home/alex/Documents/Documents/openoffice
The 4.1.4 RPM version downloaded from LibreOffice doesn't exhibit either of these problems. This was compiled with the 4.1.3 slackbuilds from slackbuild.org tweaked for 4.1.4. For the moment I sticking with these as opposed to AlienBob's packages.

It would be nice to know if anyone else is experiencing either of the two problems quoted above.

Alex
 
Old 12-21-2013, 07:44 AM   #19
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The new libreoffice 4.1.4 packages that AlienBob put out don't really help, even though there was supposed to be a patch to fix it. The file dialogs are now slow in a different way. If I click the "up" arrow or on a directory, the "waiting" mouse pointer will come up for around 10 seconds before actually changing. I'm reverting to 4.0.5. I don't know how they can screw up a file manager so badly, but they have.
I can not reproduce this behaviour, response times are fractions of a second here.

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I've still got problems with AlienBob's version of Libreoffice the

1.
Format Cell Dialog in calc - totally unusable - displays completely transparent with just a border. If one clicks around randomly within the border various functionality reveals itself
The format cell dialog works completely normally here. It does not make a difference whether I ebable "libreoffice dialog windows" or not.

Quote:
2.
The security dialog in Tools -> Options -> Libreoffice -> Security -> Macro Security -> Trusted Sources has converted
Code:
/home/alex/Documents/openoffice
to
Code:
/home/alex/Documents/Documents/openoffice
I did not use that function before so I can not check what happened here.

In all cases you guys are mentioning, the issue will not be resolved by complaining in this forum. Create a bug report in LibreOffice bug tracker if you want the developers to look into this. I only compile and package this stuff.

What versions of Slackware are you running this on? What kind of graphics hardware? Any kind of biunary driver that you installed on top?
My computer is running Slackware-current 64-bit multilib with Nvidia's graphics drivers. Not a modern machine, it's several years old.

Eric
 
Old 12-21-2013, 09:09 AM   #20
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I've compiled Alien's most recent version and cannot reproduce the up arrow problem. I never used the other option.
Just my mileage.
Still using 14.0, Have not mad the change to 14.1 yet.
John

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Old 12-21-2013, 10:32 AM   #21
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I'm running 14.1 with

Code:
$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P AGP Bridge (rev 02)
00:06.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P Processor to I/O Memory Interface (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.3 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: AMD/ATI [Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.] RV100 [Radeon 7000 / Radeon VE]
02:01.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB23 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
I've not installed any binary drivers on top.

My machine is 10 years old with a P4 and 2GB memory.

The RPM version is fine for me packaged with the scripts from slackbuild.org.

It's just with AlienBob's prepackaged version that I've encountered those two problems, so raising a bug with the guys at LibreOffice is not going to help.

Alex
 
Old 12-21-2013, 10:56 AM   #22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aikempshall View Post

So back to the initial problem of slow dialogs. My symptoms also appear on 14.1.

For instance, this example from 14.1, on a spreadsheet with a large amount of data in it

1.
Start Calc with a spreadsheet that contains 60 rows and 80 columns with each cell filled with numeric data.

2.
Select a block of cells

3.
right click

4.
Select Format Cells

5.
The Format Cells dialogue displays but it is transparent with only the dialogue border visible and the options in the Format ListBox visible.

6.
Wait to see if it resolves itself - it doesn't

7.
Click on the format option -1234.12 and the dialogue then renders itself and everything is as it should be.

8.
Move to another application i.e. Firefox

9.
Back to Calc the Format Cells dialogbox is transparent with only the dialogue border visible, this time none of the options are visible.

10.
Wait to see if it resolves itself - it doesn't

11.
Click randomly within the border of the dialogbox until it renders itself.




Alex


I have a brand new install of Slackware 14.1 on brand new hardware i5-3470, with the libreoffice-4.1.4-x86_64-1alien.tzx and libreoffice-dict-en-4.1.4-x86_64-1alien.txz installed and I can reproduce this issue exactly as described. I put =rand()*10000 in a cell and copied it out to 100 rows by 96 columns.


Ok. Here's something interesting. I was in KDE 4.10 before. If I log out and log in using Fluxbox - the problem does not show up!

Last edited by coldbeer; 12-21-2013 at 11:05 AM.
 
Old 12-21-2013, 11:16 AM   #23
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It could make a difference that I ran earlier tests in KDE 4.11.4 and today's tests on KDE 4.12.0.
My LibreOffice packages were however compiled against Slackware's 14.0's version of KDE: 4.8.5.

Eric
 
Old 12-21-2013, 12:56 PM   #24
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I believe this is a bug when using the FSF Java 1.5.0. It is not well supported by Libreoffice and causes problems. Disabling java completely should solve it, or you can install Oracle Java. I'm not sure if OpenJDK is supported or works well.
 
Old 12-21-2013, 02:46 PM   #25
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I don't have Java installed at all, so that shouldn't be the problem.

And AlienBob, I know that you are not a libreoffice developer, I just wanted to report that the patch didn't fix things for me. I'm not expecting you to fix anything. I was hoping through this forum that maybe someone else had the same situation and found a solution.

FWIW, I've got an Intel i5-750 with 4G RAM and a GeForce GTX 660 running the 325.15 binary driver. It's all running on stock Slackware64 14.1 with multilib.
 
Old 12-21-2013, 03:27 PM   #26
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I would also be interested to know if these issues disappear when not using KDE? Also, is there anyone else with KDE 4.11 or 4.12 that can test this?

Eric
 
Old 12-21-2013, 03:51 PM   #27
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I don't have Java installed at all, so that shouldn't be the problem.

And AlienBob, I know that you are not a libreoffice developer, I just wanted to report that the patch didn't fix things for me. I'm not expecting you to fix anything. I was hoping through this forum that maybe someone else had the same situation and found a solution.

FWIW, I've got an Intel i5-750 with 4G RAM and a GeForce GTX 660 running the 325.15 binary driver. It's all running on stock Slackware64 14.1 with multilib.
Are you sure you don't have the package 'gcc-java-4.8.2-x86_64-1' installed ? If you do, then I think it is the problem.
 
Old 12-22-2013, 05:07 AM   #28
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I've now tried it with xfce -

the Format Cells dialog issue is not a problem. The dialog presents itself correctly.

Alex
 
Old 12-22-2013, 05:30 AM   #29
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I've now tried it with xfce -

the Format Cells dialog issue is not a problem. The dialog presents itself correctly.

Alex
So my guess is that this was someting triggered by an older version of KDE (KDE 4.10.5 of Slackware 14.1 is not the newest) and it has been fixed by newer versions of KDE (I have not encoutered the issue you describe in KDE 4.11 or 4.12).

Eric
 
Old 12-22-2013, 06:08 AM   #30
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Have we any packages for later releases of KDE - 4.11 or 4.12?
Or scripts that can build them?

Alex
 
  


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