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Old 07-14-2007, 12:00 PM   #1
slack&lovinit
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Laptop can't boot S12 Install CDROM...


Hello everyone, thanks for checking out my query!

My oldish laptop refuses to recognise the Slackware 12 install CDs as bootable... it WILL boot with Slackware 10 but not 12 nor 11 for that matter.

So what can I do to install 12? The laptop doesn't have a floppy, it cannot boot from USB and has no PXE ability.

I tried to trick the installer by starting with the version 10 CD, swapping it out for the v12 CD then issuing several different CL instructions but the installer wasn't fooled for long!

FYI I can boot v10, DOS, WinXP, Solaris and Slax (Live CD) CDs on this laptop just not v12.

Now, short of sticking with v10 and upgrading through 10.1, 10.2, 11 to 12 what else can I do to get 12 installed?

Thanks for ANY help you can provide!
 
Old 07-14-2007, 12:06 PM   #2
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Have you tried the 12 CDs at a different computer to see if they're bootable? Also, a mini bootable iso of Slackware might help along with copying the /slackware folder off the CDs to a FAT partition on the laptop. Looks like the last option is your last resort. Wow, hopefully other suggestions will come along.

Last edited by hrp2171; 07-14-2007 at 12:10 PM.
 
Old 07-14-2007, 12:52 PM   #3
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Hiya! Thanks for the quick reply, yes, I have tried the CDs on another PC (this one) and they all work perfectly - the odd one out is the laptop.

I'm sure there must be a way to install v12 from CD when in the present v10 installation but I don't know it! Again, any advice would be well recieved!
 
Old 07-15-2007, 04:50 AM   #4
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I had this same exact problem on my server (old hardware, could boot Slack 9 CD's just fine, but not Slack 11.) I got around it by installing Smart Boot Manager on the MBR of the first hard disk and then booting from that. Just download 'sbminst' or sbminst.exe(Windows), which is the Smart Boot Manager installer.

A couple of notes/warnings: Smart Boot Manager is not a boot loader, it's a boot device selector. Once installed, when you boot, you are presented with a menu at which you can choose to boot from your CD drive (or floppy or hard drive, etc.). When installing Slackware, you will write over this installation of SBM with lilo.

If you have Windows on a partition you are keeping:
After Slackware is installed, you can boot Windows from lilo, but until you get Slackware installed, you cannot boot any OS (as you will have written over the bootloader with SBM.)

By installing SBM, I was able to boot the Slackware 11 (and I would bet Slackware 12) medium with no problems. It was impossible to boot the CD without SBM.

Good luck!

Last edited by thegoofeedude; 07-15-2007 at 04:52 AM.
 
Old 07-15-2007, 07:43 AM   #5
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laod initrd.img

slackware mirror site will have isolinux/initrd.img
you can find it also on a burned install CD
you can start setup by loading intird.img

boot using lilo or grub :
kernel=/bzImage
initrd=intird.img
label=install

or

boot slackware11.0 CD and choose to installl from
hard drive partition : make ext2 or fat32 partition
with slackware/a slackware/ap ....
 
Old 07-15-2007, 11:14 AM   #6
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thegoofeedude,

Thanks for that idea, dude, it sounds very simple and I would have used it if it weren't for the fact that I really, really didn't want to mess around with the MBR since it took me ages to get Solaris (chain) loading properly. Otherwise a simple and straight-forward way to get round my issue and one that I would recommend to others!

yakoub, I took your suggestion and it worked a treat! Thanks a million!

Here's what I did:

booted to my v10 Slackware installation.
made a directory under /boot called v12install
ie /boot/v12install
I then copied the follwowing 2 files from the v12 Install CD to /boot/v12install:

bzImage from /kernel/huge.s/
initrd.img from /isolinux

edited lilo.conf as follows

...
#Linux bootable partition config ends

#V12 Install begins

kernel= /boot/v12install/bzImage
initrd= /boot/v12install/intird.img
label= v12install

#V12 Install ends
....

Ran lilo, ignored Ramdisk image size warnings

Rebooted, chose v12Install and voila! Straight into v12 Installation - 10 minutes later I had Slackware 12 up and running beautifully! Added my Solaris boot information back in lilo.conf, ran lilo again, rebooted and I now have both back at my disposal with a minimum of fuss... yeeeeha!

Thanks everyone and I hope this helps someone else in turn.

Last edited by slack&lovinit; 07-15-2007 at 11:16 AM.
 
Old 07-15-2007, 11:25 AM   #7
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Hi,

If you have a floppy then write the sbootmgr to it with rawrite.

You can read the sbootmgr README.TXT.
 
Old 07-15-2007, 12:51 PM   #8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slack&lovinit
thegoofeedude,

Thanks for that idea, dude, it sounds very simple and I would have used it if it weren't for the fact that I really, really didn't want to mess around with the MBR since it took me ages to get Solaris (chain) loading properly. Otherwise a simple and straight-forward way to get round my issue and one that I would recommend to others!

yakoub, I took your suggestion and it worked a treat! Thanks a million!

Here's what I did:

booted to my v10 Slackware installation.
made a directory under /boot called v12install
ie /boot/v12install
I then copied the follwowing 2 files from the v12 Install CD to /boot/v12install:

bzImage from /kernel/huge.s/
initrd.img from /isolinux

edited lilo.conf as follows

...
#Linux bootable partition config ends

#V12 Install begins

kernel= /boot/v12install/bzImage
initrd= /boot/v12install/intird.img
label= v12install

#V12 Install ends
....

Ran lilo, ignored Ramdisk image size warnings

Rebooted, chose v12Install and voila! Straight into v12 Installation - 10 minutes later I had Slackware 12 up and running beautifully! Added my Solaris boot information back in lilo.conf, ran lilo again, rebooted and I now have both back at my disposal with a minimum of fuss... yeeeeha!

Thanks everyone and I hope this helps someone else in turn.
Wow, awesome tinkering session! I'm usually not up for complicated stuff but this is good stuff. Thanks for sharing.
 
Old 07-15-2007, 12:53 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by onebuck
Hi,

If you have a floppy then write the sbootmgr to it with rawrite.

You can read the sbootmgr README.TXT.
Oh snap! It's been soooo loooong since I did it that way, it totally left my mind. I used the sbootmgr diskette on a Pentium 1 80MHz laptop eons ago. LOL OMG Sorry, slack&lovinit that I didn't remember earlier.
 
Old 07-15-2007, 05:48 PM   #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by onebuck
Hi,

If you have a floppy then write the sbootmgr to it with rawrite.

You can read the sbootmgr README.TXT.

Hi there! Yep, I would have done this if I'd had a floppy drive to use! Thanks in any case.
 
  


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