When it becomes KDE Cloud I'll _really_ start to worry ;)

Funnily enough I was thinking about trying to fork Dolphin away from KDE. I may have time to look at it one day, but it's a job and a half.

I think without either KDE or Gnome it will impact on the user count. If it went with XFCE as the main desktop then that would be cool but then it leads to a whole bunch of alternative applications, which would cause its own problem. But at the end of the day I'm sure it will all work out good.

I found no "insults" in this thread. But let's get serious: XFCE may be complete enough for expert users, but KDE provides a helping hand here and there for newbies, while supporting highly integrated workflows for professionals. And of the two, *only* KDE provides useful support for non-US based users. Apart from that, I'd say, that XFCE is a good and lean option for people, who don't need the added value of the high integration of tools and services in KDE.

Is it really too much to ask you to look a bit farther than just to the edge of *your* plate?

But I think, this thread has already become too much of a "My DE is better than yours" discussion, which is off-topic.

gargamel

I put KDE as default DE on the office laptops simply because it is the nearest thing to Windows. People have a better idea of what to expect, and where to look.

I've been reading some of the threads on KDE and their recent policy decisions and the blatant stupidity of the KDE management is nothing short of frightening.
If I were the conspiracy theory type I would think they are on mickeysoft's payroll.
:banghead:

IMHO, M$'s framework is libraries and dev stacks. But KDE framework(if there is any) is applications. Are they the same? No, I don't think so. Besides there are much more license, community, eco differences.

Excuse me, for interfering here, but why don't you S L A C K W A R E users kick everything? Kick KDE, just like you kicked GNOME, kick Xfce, it may become to complex to maintain. Kick kernel, because what the fuck is Linus doing? 3.0? Who will maintain that. Kick Red Hat, kick Debian, kick Ubuntu, kick LQ. We do it from source, we are UNIX, BSD.

Who needs normal user, you should start with startx, everybody. The elite.

It'll probably be me, against few hundred Slackware useres, saintly users.

Whatever, anytime, anywhere, you name it. The elite.

Give me some negative reputation.

Wow alan_ri - now that is completely uncalled for. You use Debian, not Slackware. What happens in Slackware should not concern you.
Nobody invited you to vent your frustrations here. The word "elite" is not mentioned anywhere and other distros were not harmed in this thread.

What happened, did your dog die?

Eric

@alan_ri
From your sig
This is a discussion of the needs of users and the free software community.
I didn't, but thanks for the tempting offer!

That's typical of the Debian community -- release your stuff long after everyone else has finished ;)

For anyone else who hasn't been following this controversy, here's
Kick KDE From Slackware In A Nutshell.

• Slackware core contributors: Please help us keep KDE in Slackware.
• KDE core contributors: Please let us help you keep KDE in Slackware.
• Slackware KDE users: Please keep KDE in Slackware, and we'll help if we can.
• Slackware non-KDE users: If it's not too much work, please keep KDE in Slackware.
• alan_ri: TL;DR, but he called us 'elite', which is always welcome.

I don't think my opinion is interesting for someone, but I believe it's not very good idea to kick off KDE from Slackware. And doesn't matter whether I use KDE or I don't. Having a solid desktop environment is one of the most important option for end user and every solid Linux distro have to provide one. Of cause, you can say that Fluxbox or twm or Linux console is your integrated DE, but don't be kiddy, you understand what I'm talking about.

While alan_ri's comment was completely uncalled for, there's no reason for escalating this exchange into the war of distros. This thread is not about Debian, or any other distro apart from Slackware.

I agree with this recap. Everyone in the Slackware community would prefer to keep KDE if it's at all feasible, and the Debian community still recognizes us as being the most elite.

I wouldn't like to see KDE dropped. Of course, I'll understand it if maintaining it becomes too much of a hassle. I'd just ask that QT isn't dropped along with it. I just can't do without a couple of applications, like Kmymoney.