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Old 02-08-2011, 09:05 AM   #1
Robert.Thompson
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KDE4.6 - Is it ok to install this in Slackware 13.1?


Hello:

I am thinking of installing KDE4.6. Right now I am running whatever version that came on the Slackware 13.1 DVD I purchased.

Is this ok to do?

If so, where do I get it? I don't see KDE4.6 in SlackBuilds but I am new at this.

Thanks for any input on this,
 
Old 02-08-2011, 09:15 AM   #2
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I suspect it would be quite difficult. Have a read of this and especially the part about new dependencies and updated packages.
http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/kde-4-6-0-is-here
 
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Old 02-08-2011, 09:19 AM   #3
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I suspect it would be quite difficult. Have a read of this and especially the part about new dependencies and updated packages.
http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/kde-4-6-0-is-here
Ok!! I don't need any troubles I can't handle yet in my Slackware career. I've got enough just copying files!!

Would KDE4.5.5 be safe for me?

If so, where do I get it?

Thanks,
 
Old 02-08-2011, 09:58 AM   #4
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I'd upgrade to KDE 4.4.5 from alien's repository. KDE 4.5 and 4.6 require some additional dependencies and stuff; you could probably make it happen but it would be a lot of work. This is the price you pay for Slackware's stability... sometimes your software might be kinda old.
 
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Old 02-08-2011, 09:58 AM   #5
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I think KDE 4.5.5 comes with the current version of Slackware. Here's a link with information about upgrading Slackware from 13.1 to current:

http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090518

At this very moment, I am performing this operation, upgrading from 13.1 to current. When I'm finished. I'll let you know what version of KDE I have.

I see someone else posted just before I did. I don't even know what repos are mentioned. I'll keep you posted.

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Old 02-08-2011, 10:01 AM   #6
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go to http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/ and search on his site and you will find the kde 4.5 pkgs for Slackware 13.1
 
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Old 02-08-2011, 10:08 AM   #7
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I think 2handband is right. Upgrading to 4.4.5 would be simplest for you and would get you a few bug fixes.
If you want 4.5.5 then that is in -current which I have been running for a while and it has been very stable for me except for the recent upgrade of Mesa. You could consider upgrading your 13.1 to current as long as you are comfortable that it may break from time to time as Pat and the team update the packages (It doesn't happen very often though).
 
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Old 02-08-2011, 10:13 AM   #8
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I think 2handband is right. Upgrading to 4.4.5 would be simplest for you and would get you a few bug fixes.
If you want 4.5.5 then that is in -current which I have been running for a while and it has been very stable for me except for the recent upgrade of Mesa. You could consider upgrading your 13.1 to current as long as you are comfortable that it may break from time to time as Pat and the team update the packages (It doesn't happen very often though).
Exactly. Everybody else here has been taking you at your word, answering your question literally: Can I install a new KDE in Slackware 13.1? That's because they're experienced slackers. Me, I'm not so seasoned, and I suspect that you're not fully aware of the option to upgrade from 13.1 to current. Forgive me if I underestimate you, I'm just thinking about my early slack days (NOT SO LONG AGO!) If you upgrade to current (I already provided the link above), I think it comes with 4.5 (I'll know soon) and the binaries to upgrade to 4.6 are provided.

I don't think I've ever had a problem with current slackware

(Later)

Yes, I can see from the packages that I'm downloading that current slackware comes with KDE4.5.5, so my recommendation is that if you want to upgrade to KDE 4.5.5, upgrade your Slackware to current as per this tutorial:

http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090518

THEN if you want to upgrade to KDE 4.6.0 use the binary packages found here:

http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/kde-4-6-0-is-here


It's probably going to be a hassle unless you're willing to upgrade from Slackware 13.1 to Slackware current, but that's not so hard if you follow the distrowatch tutorial linked to above.

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Old 02-08-2011, 10:33 AM   #9
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Exactly. Everybody else here has been taking you at your word, answering your question literally: Can I install a new KDE in Slackware 13.1? I suspect that you're not fully aware of the option to upgrade from 13.1 to current. Forgive me if I underestimate you, I'm just thinking about my early slack days (NOT SO LONG AGO!) If you upgrade to current (I already provided the link above), I think it comes with 4.5 (I'll know soon) and the binaries to upgrade to 4.6 are provided.

I don't think I've ever had a problem with current slackware.
You don't underestimate me at all!!!

I think that I am afraid of 'current' although I am very curious.

When people say 'it may break' etc, does this mean that I won't be able to use my computer at all in Slackware mode? If so, how do you fix it? Re-install Slackware? (I've done this at least 10 times in the past few months due to things that I have done and shouldn't have.)

Am I being too much of a chicken?

Thanks,
 
Old 02-08-2011, 10:38 AM   #10
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You don't underestimate me at all!!!

I think that I am afraid of 'current' although I am very curious.

When people say 'it may break' etc, does this mean that I won't be able to use my computer at all in Slackware mode? If so, how do you fix it? Re-install Slackware? (I've done this at least 10 times in the past few months due to things that I have done and shouldn't have.)

Am I being too much of a chicken?

Thanks,

It probably just means needs you'll need to logout and log back in, or reboot at worst. , I'm almost certain about that, but could someone else confirm this?

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Old 02-08-2011, 10:47 AM   #11
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Robert,
The worst that has happened to me over many years of following Slackware current is that I had to go back to the previous versions of some packages. There's a tip for you. As you upgrade the new packages when they appear in current always keep a copy of the previous versions of those packages you had installed because they disappear from the mirrors.
Only you know how comfortable you are with Slackware and your ability to solve problems which may happen, but remember, if something does break there are some very helpful people here to help you provided you can still get internet access. Also, there are enough people following current that you probably won't be the only person having the problem.
 
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Old 02-08-2011, 10:52 AM   #12
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Ah well, I just got a call, and I'm going to have to leave for a while. If I was less experienced with the current version, I think the word "broken" would spook me, too, and I don't feel entirely comfortable telling you with 100 per cent certainty that it's nothing to worry about. With 95 per cent certainty, I think it just means a crash,a freeze up, that sort of thing. reboot at worst. All I can tell you is that I've never had any problem with current slackware that I remember, and I'm cheerfuylly and calmly upgrading to current right now.
 
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Old 02-08-2011, 12:36 PM   #13
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Thanks everyone!

I'm marking this as SOLVED.

I'm going to read a bit and then plunge head-long into the 'current'.
 
Old 02-08-2011, 01:15 PM   #14
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OK, this just in: for the first time, my upgraDe to current was a complete disaster. X didn't work; emacs didn't work. I accidentally overwrote grub for my aptosid (debian) install with lilo, making my debian system inaccessible (THAT I expect to be able to fix) OH, IT WAS BAD!

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Old 02-08-2011, 02:02 PM   #15
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OK, this just in: for the first time, my upgraDe to current was a complete disaster. X didn't work; emacs didn't work. I accidentally overwrote grub for my aptosid (debian) install with lilo, making my debian system inaccessible (THAT I expect to be able to fix) OH, IT WAS BAD!
I dont mean to highjack this thread so OP please excuse me.... @blackbelt_jones: Are you been sarcastic or serious?
current is sort of the bleeding edge of slackware and the test grounds for developers and those brave enough to run current with the risk.... I know from experience that current can and in occasion WILL brake your OS. Those with experience can manage around and get the fixes but for some people including me slackware is my main desktop for fun and work so I can not afford to brake it for massive amount of times. If you ask me for those out there seeking an advice of stable vs current if you dont have the time stay in stable but if you have the time and like to live on the edge go for it. and for everybody else in this post I would say that if the OP is not a season Linux user advising them to go to current is a bad idea. Like somebody said all ready "Old software some time is the price you pay for stability" Just my 2 cents

Good Luck.

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