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Old 01-27-2010, 06:11 PM   #1
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KDE randomly freezing


I installed Slackware 13 (full install) a few days ago and every thing is working well except KDE freezes (I'd say randomly but lately it seems as if it happens after I use a KDE program or component.) and nothing works except the mouse cursor, I have to use the power on/off to reset the computer. After a reboot and fsck checks the partition that was unmounted improperly I log in delete a few bad files (.serverauth.XXXX, socket-speeedy and tmp-speedy) I'm usually able to restart KDE using startx. Googling around I think it may be my on board Intel video, dmesg id's it as the Intel 830M Chipset.

Any suggestions would be appreciated?

BTW, this box ran Mandrake 10.1 for the last 6-7 years without problem, for what's worth.

Thanks
 
Old 01-28-2010, 04:03 AM   #2
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Hello,

You may have an issue due to your intel graphic card which is known to cause trouble in 13.0.

Refer to file CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT:

Quote:
extra/xf86-video-intel-alternate/xf86-video-intel-* (several alternate
versions of the Xorg intel driver just in case the default doesn't work
properly for you)
Please remove old intel package before installing new one from extra/ directory.

I hope one of these alternative driver will work for you.
 
Old 01-28-2010, 04:24 AM   #3
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Intel video sucks. I have problems with it too. Beside official slackware alternate intel drivers you might try to use latest drivers I prepared for myself. Driver 2.9.0 works best for me. Good luck, grab from here:

http://advamacs.com/pub/intel-slackware/

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Old 01-29-2010, 03:19 PM   #4
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I've tried every driver in /extra with no improvement. The first three, 2.5.1, 2.6.3, 2.7.1, all resulted in black screens with a mouse cursor but otherwise frozen. 2.8.1 worked but I'd still get the random freezes.

Witek's 2.9.0 also had a random freeze problem with a spontaneous reboot. 2.10.0 wouldn't load X and 2.9.1 has the freezing problem too. I'm sticking with 2.9.1 because it seems to work the best.

Any other ideas? I'm thinking of upgrading KDE from 4.2.4 to 4.3.4 also I thought of sticking an old PCI video card in and seeing what happens.

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Old 01-29-2010, 03:51 PM   #5
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2.10.0 requires libdrm-2.4.17, and appending this line to lilo:
Code:
append = "i915.modeset=1"
maybe this is why X won`t boot. Upgrading libdrm won`t hurt your system and older drivers should work with it well.
My observation is you need to reboot your system after intel driver upgrade.

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Old 01-29-2010, 04:38 PM   #6
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Do I just issue installpkg libdrm-2.4.17 as root?
 
Old 01-29-2010, 04:43 PM   #7
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as root: upgradepkg libdrm-2.4.17-i486-1.txz (I wonder how did you upgrade intel drivers ?) If upgrading libdrm won`t help with starting X on 2.10.0 driver, just downgrade the driver to 2.9.1 with upgradepkg xf86-video-intel-2.9.1-i486-1.txz and it should work fine. You don`t have to downgrade libdrm.

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Old 01-29-2010, 05:37 PM   #8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by witek View Post
(I wonder how did you upgrade intel drivers ?)
As root:

removepkg xf86-video-intel-2.10.0-i486-1.txz

installpkg xf86-video-intel-2.9.1-i486-1.txz

however, I didn't realize a reboot was necessary with each change, but if and when KDE frooze after a driver was changed the system was rebooted and tested with the same driver at least one other time.
 
Old 01-30-2010, 08:57 AM   #9
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I guess removing and installing a package is equivalent to upgradepkg so you did it OK
And? Is the new driver working for you? If not, you might want to test new intel driver compiled with kernel mode settings enabled, prepared by matters. I`ve just put them in my directory (both libdrm and intel-driver)
 
Old 01-30-2010, 02:19 PM   #10
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I haven't tested 2.10.0 yet, but I will. Last night I generated a xorg.conf and changed the driver from intel to vesa, in the short time since I made the change things have been stable but slow. I sure hope 2.10.0 works out. :-(

Edit: that last part went pretty much over my head.

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Old 01-30-2010, 04:50 PM   #11
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Just tried the matters files:

0. as root

1. rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf to xorg.conf.joe

2. upgradepkg libdrm-2.4.17-i486-1kmsmatters.txz

3. removepkg xf86-video-intel-2.9.1-i486-1.txz

4. installpkg xf86-video-intel-2.10.0-i486-1kmsmatters.txz

5. shutdown -r now

6. log back on as user

X wouldn't start so I dropped back to 2.9.1, xorg.conf and the vesa driver.

PS. I'm attaching the log file for that failed attempt.

PPS. and thanks for the continued help.
Attached Files
File Type: txt Xorg.0.log.txt (7.7 KB, 7 views)
 
Old 01-30-2010, 07:51 PM   #12
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The 2.6.29.6 kernel in Slackware 13 does not fully support some Intel graphics hardware. My suggestion would be to update your kernel.
One option would be to compile your own kernel.
Another option would be to upgrade your system to Slackware-current (at this time it is kernel 2.6.32.5).

Not exactly the same hardware as yours, but this thread may be of interest
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...0/#post3783405
 
Old 02-02-2010, 11:50 AM   #13
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Hi all,

I am having the same problem. KDE freezes every now and then. I just downloaded the latest Slackware available 3 or 4 days ago so I assume I have the latest kernel for it. I haven't tried to troubleshoot yet.

Am here to let you know that you're not the only one having this kind of problem.
I'll try to figure out what could cause this problem and post it here hopefully if I can fix it.


Thanks
and
more
power....Slackerssssssss nyahhahahaha!!!!
 
Old 02-03-2010, 11:44 AM   #14
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I upgraded my Slackware 13 installation to -current (2-2-2010) and my problems seem to have cleared up. I'm starting X with startx and no xorg.conf file. Although I hope to get a little more performance out of the Intel Corporation 82845G/GL graphics.
 
Old 02-03-2010, 02:25 PM   #15
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Spoke to soon, just had a couple freeze/lockups. There different than before, now I'm able to <Ctrl><Alt><BS> to get out of X. But... I can't restart X without rebooting, if I do I just get a black screen with mouse pointer.
 
  


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