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Old 05-01-2013, 12:16 AM   #1
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KDE alternative in Slackware


Too many issues with KDE lately so I'm asking to find a viable alternative within Slackware. Biggest issue with KDE is that after a few days of usage switching between windows becomes very sluggish until a restart of KDE. Anyway, some features that I liked from KDE that hopefully are available within said alternative...

-transparency
-konsole
-kmail
-virtual desktops

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Old 05-01-2013, 12:33 AM   #2
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I like MateSlackBuild.

Konsole and KMail can, of course, be run in any desktop.

I never use tranparency, but AFAIK transparency can be added to any DE just by swapping the WM out with Compiz. I haven't seen anything that uses transparency as heavily as KDE does though.

As for virtual desktops, it would be quicker to list choices that don't have them.

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Old 05-01-2013, 12:41 AM   #3
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Do you not like xfce/xfwm, terminal and thunderbird?
 
Old 05-01-2013, 12:53 AM   #4
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xfwm4 can do transparency if you enable it
 
Old 05-01-2013, 01:05 AM   #5
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Xfce also has a transparent panel.
 
Old 05-01-2013, 01:14 AM   #6
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Too many issues with KDE lately so I'm asking to find a viable alternative within Slackware. Biggest issue with KDE is that after a few days of usage switching between windows becomes very sluggish until a restart of KDE. Anyway, some features that I liked from KDE that hopefully are available within said alternative...

-transparency
-konsole
-kmail
-virtual desktops
have you tried adjusting your swappiness?

Have a look at this thread

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...up-4175457526/

XFCE's a good option but I find that windows tear with my Nvidia card. Not sure if it's a bug or feature.
 
Old 05-01-2013, 01:21 AM   #7
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Xfce with compositing enabled
Terminal
Thunderbird
and, uh, virtual desktops
 
Old 05-01-2013, 04:36 AM   #8
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I use NVIDIA's proprietary drivers, and I noticed the sluggishness. What solved this for me, was choosing "OpenGL" from:

System Settings > Desktop Effects > Advanced > Compositing type


I've always been doing this, but the one time I forgot, the whole desktop was sluggish.

TBO, I don't like compositing at all, but with my new nvidia card I experience terrible screen tearing if I don't have it enabled, along with vsync. So, it's KDE or nothing for me.
 
Old 05-01-2013, 05:01 AM   #9
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have you tried adjusting your swappiness?
and if your working set fits into main memory you shouldn't set up swap at all

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XFCE's a good option but I find that windows tear with my Nvidia card. Not sure if it's a bug or feature.
I have no such problem with the proprietaty Nvidia driver. Compositing is disabled because I want to preserve the GPU resources for my, erm, applications.
 
Old 05-01-2013, 05:15 AM   #10
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For virtual desktops, you could use either fvwm2 or Windowmaker. konsole can be replaced by xterm or rxvt.
Instead of kmail, you could use thunderbird or seamonkey. If your system has limited memory, you can use instead a text based email reader such as pine or elm in an xterm/rxvt window. All the above programs are normally installed by default on Slackware (x/ and xap/ packages).

If you need a fuller desktop environment, instead of fvwm or you can of course try xfce (also installed by default on slackware) or maté (that you will have to install). Another possibility, if you are familiar with building programs from source is to replace lesstif with LGPL Motif and install
the Common Desktop Environment . dtterm will
replace konsole, dtmail will replace kmail, and you will have the dtpad editor and the dtfile filemanager.
 
Old 05-01-2013, 05:51 AM   #11
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and if your working set fits into main memory you shouldn't set up swap at all
True, I dare say many people have an unnecessary swap partition - but swap does have its uses (e.g. pm-hibernate).
 
Old 05-01-2013, 12:21 PM   #12
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Lots of good alternatives are available, though none is a complete replacement for KDE. Personally I like these:
  • Xfce (part of Slackware, but enriched with stuff from SlackBuilds.org, e. g. it looks damn good with Faenza icons)
  • Enlightenment DR17 (e17) Completely different, but equally good as Xfce, incredibly fast despite a lot of eyecandy.
  • Fluxbox (even faster, easy to configure, good-looking, but not a full desktop)
Occasionally I also use Razor-Desktop (available from SlackBuilds.org). It's a Qt based peer to Xfce, but not yet quite as complete. Razor provides a very similar look and feel as KDE, uses Openbox as window manager, but is light and fast.

However, most of the time I stick with KDE. I experience some sluggishness with KMail, recently, but the desktop as a whole feels, at least, as responsive as Xfce (e17 and Fluxbox might be a bit "snappier"). The question is therefore, what causes the sluggishness you describe. Is it really caused by KDE, or would you have the same effect with another DE, after a while, too?

Anyhow, checking the above mentioned environments out was a lot of fun for me (and still is), so if you aren't depending on maximum productivity I recommend you just give them all a try, one by one.

Enjoy!


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Old 05-01-2013, 12:35 PM   #13
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Xfce (part of Slackware, but enriched with stuff from SlackBuilds.org, e. g. it looks damn good with Faenza icons)
Slackware, Xfce (compositing enabled), Faenza icons, conky. My Slack desktop here at work...
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:24 PM   #14
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Also, Nicolas Kovacs does nice work with Slackware and Xfce, for enterprise customers (see screenshots):

http://www.microlinux.fr/desktop_linux.php
 
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:01 PM   #15
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I use the Trinity Desktop, which has:

-transparency
-konsole
-kmail

To run virtual desktops I keep qt4 installed and run VirtualBox.
 
  


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