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Old 06-02-2010, 02:34 PM   #1
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KDE 4.4.4 builds fine with 4.4.3 Slackbuild.


If 13.1 and KDE 4.4.3 aren't new enough for anyone, I've just successfully built and installed KDE 4.4.4 with the slackbuilds for 4.4.3. I had to edit the Slackbuild for kdenetwork by commenting out the line that patches the source. Other than that everything seems to be fine, although I don't know yet if this is a good thing or a bad thing since I've just got it installed.

Thanks again to Pat, Eric, and Robby for all the work to get KDE 4.4.x going!
 
Old 06-03-2010, 07:26 AM   #2
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If 13.1 and KDE 4.4.3 aren't new enough for anyone, I've just successfully built and installed KDE 4.4.4 with the slackbuilds for 4.4.3. I had to edit the Slackbuild for kdenetwork by commenting out the line that patches the source. Other than that everything seems to be fine, although I don't know yet if this is a good thing or a bad thing since I've just got it installed.

Thanks again to Pat, Eric, and Robby for all the work to get KDE 4.4.x going!
Did you do that on 13.1 -stable or -current?
 
Old 06-03-2010, 07:30 AM   #3
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fyi, stable and current, from may 19th until today, got exactly the same packages and kde 4.4.4 has been released june 1st...
 
Old 06-03-2010, 07:30 AM   #4
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at this moment stable is equivalent to current.
 
Old 06-03-2010, 07:35 AM   #5
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damgar, notice any significant differences?

I checked out the KDE 4.4.4 'changelog' but didn't notice anything obvious that would make it a must-have update. "A few bugs in the games" I can live with.
 
Old 06-03-2010, 07:57 AM   #6
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damgar, notice any significant differences?

I checked out the KDE 4.4.4 'changelog' but didn't notice anything obvious that would make it a must-have update. "A few bugs in the games" I can live with.
I haven't found it a "must have", but it feels a bit snappier. I built it mostly because I just have a weird urge to test new releases and because Eric's KDE packages seemed to improve with each release and I'd say 4.4.4 carries on in the same incremental improvements.

Konqueror feels a lot quicker, I'm even testing it as a full time browser for the first time in a long time. A flash video issue I'd had with Konqueror seems to be gone, I watched several full screen HD videos with no hint of weirdness.

I did have to remove my ~/.kde directory because there were some weird things going on with losing cursors and a few things of that nature, all of which seem to have been resolved.

And finally on a fresh install of 13.1 I was having an issue where I couldn't log out of KDE without ctrl+alt=backspace. Changing to the new kdmrc.new file after the upgrade resolved that issue although the files look the same at a quick scan.

 
Old 06-03-2010, 10:44 AM   #7
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Ahh. ok. Thanks for the report. I've still got my fresh 13.1 install to do. Might get around to doing a KDE update sometime in the future when I get bored.
 
Old 06-03-2010, 11:12 AM   #8
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After a week of using 4.4.3 on a fresh 64-bit 13.1, I'm starting to find more little glitches. Nothing really crashes, just some weird behavior. In the system settings applet, I put it into tree view mode. I was playing with the login manager settings, and at one point I clicked on the K3b setup entry right above it. After that the login manager entry did nothing until I killed X and restarted KDE.

Konqueror is kind of random about updating the filesystem view with changes I've made in Konsole. I've been unpacking slackbuilds and building packages at the command line, and new directories don't usually show up in Konqueror unless I close the window and reopen it.

The k3b settings window locked up when I resized it.

If I try to build a search index in KDE Help, it says the application manuals are missing.

I'm not complaining, just some observations. Nothing has been serious, just some rough edges I'm starting to notice. I'd like to keep up with any bugfix releases of 4.4 in between Slackware stable releases. Does anyone know if 4.4.4 will be released as a patch for 13.1 stable? I assume that 4.5.x will go into -current in August, but I wasn't sure how >4.4.3 would be officially supported. Of course, if Eric releases some packages via his blog that's good enough for me. I'm just wondering if they'll become official patches in the stable changelog.
 
Old 06-03-2010, 04:00 PM   #9
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@ SpelledJ

I was noticing some of that weirdess too. Hard to put my finger on exactly, because I don't use KDE 100% of the time. The konqueror thing about updating, and also if I was fishing a box, for instance while I was with my first attempt at building 4.4.4 via ssh, if I did konqueror -> kwrite to edit a script, that script would then go empty and when I would remake the script the same thing would happen again and konqueror wouldn't pick up on the new file being there. I just ran a few little tests after reading your post and I haven't ran into that on 4.4.4, although a couple mkdir's and touch's don't really make a definitive test.

Like I said though, I had to delete my ~/.kde and start fresh.
 
Old 06-03-2010, 06:34 PM   #10
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I tried some reproduction tests on what I mentioned earlier - some notes:

K3b settings window - very slow/stuttering resize, worst on Plugins tab, heavy disk activity at first, but still slow resizing after disk settles down.
  • Same behavior with compositing activated or turned off.
  • With compositing turned off and continuing to resize, I finally locked up k3b.
  • With locked up settings window in focus, cannot click on window behind it to switch - have to use taskbar.

Konqueror - in details mode with the "sidebar" (the left directory tree pane) open:
  • Create a single new subdirectory via console, and it immediately appears in right details pane.
  • The refresh/reload button doesn't update the left directory tree.
  • Delete the folder via console, and the plus to expand the directory remains.
  • Click it, and the folder you just deleted is still in the directory tree.
  • Try to open the deleted folder and you get a "File or folder does not exist" error, but it isn't cleaned out of the tree.
  • I've also noticed that drag and drop doesn't work if you try to drag a folder from the left pane. You can drag files into the tree, but you can't rearrange the tree itself.
  • Resizing the konqueror window or highlighting folder in the left pane can cause black rectangular artifacts to appear in the left pane.

My hardware is an AMD Athlon X2 4850e, 4GB RAM, ATI HD4670 using the open source driver. The video card is passively cooled, and I believe the open source driver doesn't have power management, so I wonder if the video artifacts are from temperature issues. The GPU heat sink feels warmer than it did with Windows, but that was several months ago when the house was colder. Windows is gone now so I can't recheck it.

I can't reproduce the System Settings problem with the Login Manager applet, although it seems to have been locking up trying to open the kcmshell window asking for the root password.

Looks like I need to find my bugs.kde.org account password and make some reports.
 
Old 06-03-2010, 08:49 PM   #11
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I am experiencing SERIOUS hanging issues with konqueror as a web browser. I honestly can't say if this is specific to 4.4.4 because I've never bothered trying to use it for more than a few minutes. I can say that I don't really remember it hanging like this out of the gate. I just felt obligated to say so out of full-disclosure.
 
Old 06-03-2010, 09:00 PM   #12
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I am ussing konqueror 99.9% of the time for web browsing.
The only time it hangs here is (surpringly) when i visit the linuxquestions.org homepage (7/10 of the times).

I recommend using the easylist and easyprivacy adblock filters for a smoother web experience, in general and with konqueror (those adblock filters help *a lot* with some retarted sites like arstechnica for example).

Last edited by sahko; 06-03-2010 at 09:04 PM.
 
Old 06-03-2010, 09:04 PM   #13
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I use konqueror 99.9% of the time for web browsing.
The only time it hangs here is (surpringly) when i visit the linuxquestions.org homepage (7/10 of the times).

I recommend using the easylist and easyprivacy adblock filters for a smoother web experience, both in general and with konqueror.
That's exactly what I see. LQ works half the time. I've turned off java and plugins to see what happens. I love konqueror as a file manager, I wish it performed as well for web browsing.
 
Old 06-03-2010, 09:08 PM   #14
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That's exactly what I see. LQ works half the time. I've turned off java and plugins to see what happens. I love konqueror as a file manager, I wish it performed as well for web browsing.
My solution is to never visit the LQ homepage.
I rather use 'lq slackware' and come here through the google result.
FWIW the LQ homepage is the *only* site konqueror hangs here.
Maybe someone would want to figure out why.
 
Old 06-03-2010, 09:29 PM   #15
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My solution is to never visit the LQ homepage.
I rather use 'lq slackware' and come here through the google result.
FWIW the LQ homepage is the *only* site konqueror hangs here.
Maybe someone would want to figure out why.
I thought it was a joke ...

Normally I use Firefox, so I opened Konqueror and typed the page address of the LQ, and froze !(?)

ps: my en is bad .
 
  


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