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Old 03-29-2005, 08:10 AM   #1
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kde 3.4.0 freeze system completely (slack-current)


I upgraded the system using upgradepkg *.tgz in init 1 after grabbing the packages and reading the changelog.

Compile and use new kernel (2.6.11.6). Compile and use new nvidia driver (7167).

fluxbox, xfce works fine.

When I choose kde and startx. I will get a gray screen after the nvidia splash screen. Then one strip of blue thin rectangular box appear (suppose to be splash screen for kde). Mouse is moveable. Keyboard does not responds at all. Even the Num, Caps, Scroll Lock doesn't work. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, doesn't work. Ctrl-Alt-Del, doesn't work. Have to hard reset.

Repetiveness? Tried 3 times, 100% repeat.

Anybody else have something simillar? Looks like I may be stripping KDE away as well.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 08:16 AM   #2
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Running the same here with no problems. I got my KDE packages from kde.org (slackware packages).
 
Old 03-29-2005, 08:30 AM   #3
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My packages are from PV. Slackware-current.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 10:55 AM   #4
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I also upgradeed to KDE 3.4 from current, but I used Slackpkg.
The only thing I could think of for your problem would be you need the
newest QT, I believe 3.3 to run KDE 3.4.

Hope that helps.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 11:16 AM   #5
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I installed KDE 3.4 using Konstruct, so I compiled the source myself...

I found it to be IMMENSELY unstable and completely unreliable; random KDE-related processes would crash about every 30 minutes, with almost clock-like regularity(Klicker, sound daemon, etc), and the performance was terrible(the KDE panel menu hiding or unhiding itself would actually stutter)

I removed it and reinstalled KDE 3.2 and it's been working perfectly ever since, which leads me to think that KDE 3.4 has a few bugs that need ironing out...

Last edited by Soltis; 03-29-2005 at 11:18 AM.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 11:42 AM   #6
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My KDE version from CVS/KDE.org works fine, but won't play along nicely with qt 3.4 from current. I have had to downgrade to 3.3 and everything works fine again.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 12:37 PM   #7
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carboncopy: I had the exact same problem with gentoo, turns out the problem was the
Code:
 Option "RenderAccel" "True"
line in your xorg.conf. Remove/comment that line and you should be all set.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 11:20 PM   #8
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Quote:
Originally posted by kpex
carboncopy: I had the exact same problem with gentoo, turns out the problem was the
Code:
 Option "RenderAccel" "True"
line in your xorg.conf. Remove/comment that line and you should be all set.
I have the exact same line in my xorg.conf.

I knew I should have mentioned that I inserted that line during the upgrades spree.

Mystery solve I guess.


Does adding the Option "RenderAccel" "true" give any performance boast? (Nvidia driver)

So is this a bug with KDE 3.4.0?

And by default KDE does not have anti-aliasing fonts enabled.

Last edited by carboncopy; 03-30-2005 at 12:05 AM.
 
Old 03-30-2005, 12:45 AM   #9
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After playing around a bit with KDE 3.4.0, I got tired of it. Very sluggish on a P3-500MHz machine.

It was very snappy without anti-aliasing font switch on.


For a powerful machine, it is ok. Quite nice.
 
Old 03-30-2005, 11:16 AM   #10
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Quote:
Originally posted by carboncopy
I have the exact same line in my xorg.conf.

I knew I should have mentioned that I inserted that line during the upgrades spree.

Mystery solve I guess.


Does adding the Option "RenderAccel" "true" give any performance boast? (Nvidia driver)

So is this a bug with KDE 3.4.0?

And by default KDE does not have anti-aliasing fonts enabled.
It is supposed to give some performance boost when using the Composite extension. I haven't yet found whether this is a KDE bug or not. It worked in 3.4.0-RC1 but not in 3.4.0 final.
 
Old 04-24-2005, 11:39 AM   #11
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Renderaccel also gives a boost to anti-aliased fonts, and other things. so if KDE 3.4 gives a sluggish feel on a pIII, I think you choose a slow distribution (eg suse) or renderaccel was not enabled....
 
Old 09-24-2005, 01:59 AM   #12
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http://gentoo-wiki.com/Xorg_X11_and_Transparency

if you scroll down, it says

Quote:
Note: If xcompmgr hangs or crashes within seconds, check your nVidia driver's version. The 1.0.7xxx series are known to have problems with composite rendering (among others). Try a 1.0.6xxx driver instead.
With the latest driver installed (7xxx) I can only get it to work with AllowGLXWithComposite and (of course) Composite. The drawback is that it's super sluggish... If I enable RenderAccel, then it will freeze when it's restoring the session just like with you. (I'm using "nvidia" and removed "dri")

I tried the the latest in the 6xxx series but I can't get it to compile properly. I will keep trying different driver versions and let you guys know what works.

carboncopy: I used to run KDE on a 400mhz k6 I'm running it on my fast machine now so I figured just for fun I get eye candy working. On the 400mhz, I'm using fluxbox because I don't intend to use it heavily. It's a little bit faster.
 
Old 09-24-2005, 05:48 AM   #13
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somebody on the nvidia forums (I think it's an nvidia guy) said that this issue (KDE freezing with composite and renderaccel enabled) will be fixed in the 8xxx series.
 
  


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