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Old 01-03-2005, 02:19 PM   #1
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Just want to share my experiances


Last month i've been installing 2 different kind of servers. My goal was to install a server, with a webserver funtion, a mail funtion, and a webmail funtion. Being a Win administrator i first started of installing a win2003 server with exchange. But also wanting to learn about linux i allready decided to later on install the same kind of server, but with linux.

Here goes,

Installation of win2003 server, Put in the CD , clickedieclick, next next, wait wait wait wait. 50 minutes. Promote to domain controller, wait wait wait another 20 minutes. 3COM ehternet PCI card (it's an oldie but hee) not detected, had to look for a driver....10 minutes)Reboot (wow, that reboot took LONG on that 400 Mhz 256 MB, another 5 minutes) Install Exchange 2003 software, clickedieclick, wait wait wait... 30 minutes again, finaly another reboot (againt it took that long). Now the configuration of exchange (i allready had the domain nukey.org registred), clickecliek trough the wizard. Finished. I count send and recieve mail (out of the box i didn't relay outside my private adres range (was glad with that) and the webmail funtion was allready there (cause IIS needed to be installed to install exchange (i can imagine that you don't want that by DEFAULT.. ah well).

Time of installation: about 110 minutes
Configuration time: about 15 minutes
What it would have cost me: about $4,000 (2003 pro edition)
or about $1000 for the 2003 standard edition

Just to make sure you understand, for about a month ago my knowledge with linux was close to minimum, but i downloaded slackware 9 (1 cd) Put another hard drive in that same pc (same size and type of hd) and started the pc. Now cfdisk isnt't that hard.. started the setup. "What to do you want to install" euh... what about everyting.. So the setup started and after about 20 minutes it was finished. wow. (sure beats that windows install).. And now for the configartion. I knew a little about apache so that configuration took me 10 minutes. In my first observation i thougt sendmail was going to be a hell.. So find an easier MTA called qmail. That was up and running a half hour later. THe configuration only took me 10 minutes. And now for the webmail function. The most easiest webmail i could find was SquerelMail, the installation took about 30 minutes (since i had so much to read) and the configuration only took 15 minutes. Also had a little problem with SSH (did al the config remote on my winXP pc), eventually i found the answer on this forum.. my /dev/null was corrupt....)

Time of installation: about 90 minutes
COnfiguration time: about 80 minutes
What it cost me: 0

But after learning a bit on linux, two days ago decided to reinstall the slackware server (since i made a really big mess of it (you can imagine). Downloaded slackware 10 (2 CD). Installation was done in 25 minutes (or less, don't know exactly) Configuration of apache, 2 minutes. This time i decided to go for sendmail after al, surprisingly that was not that hard. Had a little trouble here and there with domain names (also one little problem with domain names in apache) but soon it was up and running. The squerelMail was up and running in no time.

TIme of installation: about 35 minutes
Configuration time: about 25 minutes.
What it coste me: 0

Endconclusion, linux is here to stay , why ?

- The performance with linux is 10 times better (if i had to guess).
- Reading my mail trough Outlook webacces is very slow. (Especcialy from outside my local network)
- Linux doesn't "eat up" all my memory.
- It reboots in about 25 seconds(not that you have to reboot that much, but hee..) (with 2003 server a reboot takes about 5 to 7 minutes on that machine..)
- It's free, oh no, i should say Open Source

Hope you enjoyed the story :P
 
Old 01-03-2005, 03:03 PM   #2
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Hehe. Know the power of Slack!
Needs a bit tinkering but at the end.....Anyone to challenge the Slack???
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Old 01-03-2005, 03:14 PM   #3
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To be fair to the other distros, they all seem to have a similar install time (at least, that is ifyou are installing from cd not FTP)- 20 to 45 minutes depending on what you do. The big task (and the most important one) for installing any of them is security - you now need to add the patches, sort out your firewall, it's a server so grab rootkit hunter and similar, close your ports, turn off services you don't need, etc.

At the top of the Security forum are a number of references for all of this so if your server is connected to the world, you have some reading and downloading to do.

Congrats on installing, though, positive stories like this are always welcome
 
Old 01-03-2005, 03:20 PM   #4
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XavierP!
I apologize if I offended your warthog!
But isn't that true that you also love slack, "secretly"
...Just saw some of your remarks on couple of threads...
 
Old 01-03-2005, 03:38 PM   #5
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Re: Just want to share my experiances

Quote:
Originally posted by nukey
What it would have cost me: about $4,000 (2003 pro edition)
or about $1000 for the 2003 standard edition
So i take it you "borrowed" the CD instead?
Tisk tisk..
 
Old 01-03-2005, 03:43 PM   #6
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Re: Re: Just want to share my experiances

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So i take it you "borrowed" the CD instead?
Tisk tisk..
That's also downloadable, for free hehe

Bill said it was ok
 
Old 01-03-2005, 03:44 PM   #7
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Have just checked your site, xushi!
Could use 2 fingers?
 
Old 01-03-2005, 04:52 PM   #8
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Quote:
Originally posted by SlackerLX
XavierP!
I apologize if I offended your warthog!
But isn't that true that you also love slack, "secretly"
...Just saw some of your remarks on couple of threads...
I'm not running Ubuntu at the moment, I just .... got fed up with it. Must change my distro in user cp

FWIW, I'm on Mandrake for the moment and will switch back to Slack when I get time. Slack rawks!
 
Old 01-03-2005, 05:41 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by SlackerLX
Have just checked your site, xushi!
Could use 2 fingers?
lol, err..
But seriously.. i always wondered if what i have is wrong or not.. or if i should ask Pat for permission..
 
Old 01-03-2005, 07:47 PM   #10
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This story is interesting. VERY interesting.

Microsoft (in their infinite wisdom or lack thereof) claims that it's better to pay for Windows, because it's easier and faster to set up, and thus will cost less over time than a product which costs $0 to start.

But this thread blows that out of the water! If this can be the case often enough, there is no purpose to really buy Windows for a server. (Like there ever was one )
 
  


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