SO- thanks to LQ for getting me profecient enough so that i can disapear from the forums for so long that i forgot my passwords (im on a third account now) .. i can get all the technical information i need without help .. however .. im still experimenting and now its just U G L Y ..
installpkg pango-<tab> every time i run X
ndiswrapper is like a two legged dog with enough enthusiasm to get into the truck
music must be played by root from a non gui (by root duh)
i cant get an X to compile, this might solve alot of my problems
now im DETERMINED to run TKdesk since .. well this sh*t is the future it just rocks, run-time programming .. well alot of you were probably where i am now when java hit the street so ..
if ther is something better than tk/tcl please let me know so i can work with that
anyway: yeh.. when i try and run tkdesk it just says "Segmentation Fault" .. the ultimate .. sure no
core dump but if it would give me one i might know where to go to debug it but SHEET! me and gdb are still not very well acquainted .. does anyone want to wrap their head around all this nonsense for just one second? i need some sorta zen koan more than a set of instructions ..
or maybe a list is what i need, of the packages included in a default slackware setup, or a script
which will download all these packages for me ...
before anyone tells me to stick the slackware cd in, this laptop is segregated:
removable storage not allowed
(i mean unavailiable)
questions, comments, smart remarks and outright flames will be gratefully considered

Have you tried adding your username to the audio group in /etc/group (might need to restart, or log in/out for it to take effect)?

1. X is notoriously difficult to build. Use Pat's SlackBuild scripts if you must.
2. It's very unlikely it will solve any of your problems.

Did you try rox instead of TKdesk ?

dont you wonder, when you start X and it informs you of several dangling modules or whatever they need to be called, what exactly is dangling where and what might happen as the result of that?
X is fricking huge and i hate it.

i hadnt heard of rox before, ill check that out

to myself: rtfm. INSTALL for tkdesk is very implicit, compile the OO tcl extension for -your- tcl/tk and DO NOT USE someone elses packages, failure to comply will result in several fairly nasty (guess what) segmentation faults.. id like to rewrite that INSTALL with the all caps to make sure people like me dont run around wasting peoples time. (hey if you cant keep the gapers out of the wilderness maybe you can keep them on the trails)