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But to go along with that, there's also "it ain't broke, but it could be better." While many may believe that KDE 3.5 is the best KDE that will ever exist, after I got used to the differences with KDE4, I actually prefer that. I remember reading that Eric prefers Plasma 5. But, if KDE had remained only in "bug fixing" phase since their 3.5 series, I'd imagine there'd be a lot of people out there saying that they're stagnating and other DEs are doing more for the community.
Whether or not that is accurate is entirely up to the user's perspective. Some may be happy with a non-changing desktop, others may desire those innovations (and bugs along the way).
If people are desiring KDE 3.5, have any of them tried Trinity desktop (TDE)? It supposedly continued with KDE 3.5 when the developers moved on to 4.x. I was happy enough with 4.x when it was first introduced in Slack that I never felt a need to go back to 3.5.
In most cases "better" actually == "different". Whether it is an improvement or not is often subjective. IMHO some things are so fundamental it is an utter waste of time and effort to try to improve it. Pythagorean Theorem is an example ...if one avoids the 3rd dimension. For me the Desktop serves one purpose. It is a starting place. All I need is a menu and it would be nice to have 3 or 4 favorite icons - Terminal, Browser, Krunner, and File Manager pretty much handle everything I need. In fact I could probably get by with just Krunner.
That said, Trinity has the look or at least CAN have the look of KDE 3.5 but I need to play with it to see about function. Judging by the warnings I see that it may mess with KDE I suppose I will do that on a machine NOT my Main.
Hmmm I haven't used SolydXK in months and it looks like the main guv has given up so I guess it's time for a new Current install unless someone knows that's not a good idea for properly checking out Trinity. Anyone?
Oh silly one, as if I would let THEM change the background!
If they can research it themselves, well enough. Get into trouble and I can get them out, but setting a standard and recommending (not requiring, but recommending) that no one deviate unless they are ready to deal with downtime pays off. I get NO desktop calls on weekends!
For example you just installed a new app and for whatever reason you wqant to have a Desktop Shortcut Icon. In 3.5 you rt-clicked on the desktop and the popup menu clearly stated "Add a shortcut to an Application" (or URL, etc) and !Ba Da Bing! you were done. Oh...didn't like the icon? Click on Properties and then the icon and be directed to the database of icons, try one or 5, finally choose and !Ba Da Boom!, Done!. That process is painfully longer and far less intuitive in Plasma with the only important tradeoff being near infinite scalability on an individual basis.
On 4.x you can just drag the application you want from the KDE Menu to the desktop.
Distribution: Slackware64-current with "True Multilib" and KDE4Town.
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On 4.x you can just drag the application you want from the KDE Menu to the desktop.
Or unlock widgets, then right click on the item on the menu and pick from add to desktop, panel or favorites.
Edit in: After all these years it was not too long ago that I stumbled across the lock and unlock widgets functions. It can be done by right clicking on the desktop and then a left click on "lock widgets" or "unlock widgets." On the panel, right click on a empty spot, then left click on panel options, followed by a left click on "lock widgets." To unlock, a right click on the panel will immediately show the unlock option.
Last edited by cwizardone; 04-13-2016 at 09:49 AM.
Reason: Added "unlock widgets."
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" is why I'm an fvwm user. It will remain safe, sane, and sufficient for my needs forever (or at least until Wayland replaces Xorg and chooses to drop its X11 compatibility compositor, but hopefully I'll be dead by then). And it will never introduce a systemd dependency ;-)
Back to the topic: it was good to see the KDE team called on the hypocrisy of taking *BSD support seriously while dismissing Slackware as too fringe to bother. Going by distrowatch's page views, Slackware (451 views) is more popular than the most popular BSD (FreeBSD, at 442 views), and generates 37% the interest of the top five *BSD combined (1218 views).
Not sure what you're wanting with the particular view you're wanting. I have mine setup as a 'detailed' view and I simply click on anything and it takes me to it (opens that directory, or that file with whatever app I have assigned to that type, etc).
Have a look at the attachment. In Konqueror it is possible to be in the tree view and clicking the directory icon takes you inside. In Krusader it is possible to have the tree view, but clicking the directory icon does not take you inside.
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Krusader is maintained, unfortunately it's only maintained by one or two devs. The mailing list is active. It may not have a whole lot of stuff going on in it, but if you ask a question, it gets answered by at least one person and quickly.
I based my assumption on the fact that Krusader available from sourceforge is in beta, dating back to 2013. Also I cannot access krusader.org.
If there are better "places" I should look at, please give me a pointer.
All in all, for the moment those peculiarities aren't show stoppers by any means, so I am keeping on getting to know the tool.
I will still resort to Konqueror for its man:/ protocol support
Going by distrowatch's page views, Slackware (451 views) is more popular than the most popular BSD (FreeBSD, at 442 views), and generates 37% the interest of the top five *BSD combined (1218 views).
I can ensure you that Slackware is the most popular distribution in my home, unless there is something I don't know about, like my refrigerator running Android
Have a look at the attachment. In Konqueror it is possible to be in the tree view and clicking the directory icon takes you inside. In Krusader it is possible to have the tree view, but clicking the directory icon does not take you inside.
Using an Orthodox File Manager like Krusader with the mouse defeats the whole purpose. You might as well use Dolphin.
To get the best out of any OFM use the keyboard and a two-pane layout. No mouse. No directory tree. Navigate and operate on files and directories like lightning.
Using an Orthodox File Manager like Krusader with the mouse defeats the whole purpose. You might as well use Dolphin.
To get the best out of any OFM use the keyboard and a two-pane layout. No mouse. No directory tree. Navigate and operate on files and directories like lightning.
Wait, can I do anything without the mouse?
OK, I'll do it as you say. Anyway, it'll take me some time before I get used to two panes in GUI mode. mc is completely different story
No, of course not. Nowadays you have to use the mouse to browse the web (with the old Opera you could do it easily with the keyboard, but that was before Opera became a dumbed-down Chrome-clone); you have to use the mouse for photo editing and whatever else. But for navigating the file system and operating on files and directories the keyboard coupled with an advanced OFM like Krusader or Total Commander is a hundred times more efficient. For me it is painful to use anything else now.
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OK, I'll do it as you say. Anyway, it'll take me some time before I get used to two panes in GUI mode.
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