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Old 03-11-2010, 11:14 PM   #1
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Is there any provision for the release of slack13.1?


Is there any provision for the release of slack13.1?

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Old 03-12-2010, 01:30 AM   #2
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It will be ready when it is ready.
 
Old 03-12-2010, 05:38 AM   #3
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I love speculation about Linux distributions, but in my opinion, slackware 13.1 will either be released very soon and be rather similar to 13.0, or may be released after several months and will get rid of HAL, which is the current trend in the recent Linux distributions.
 
Old 03-12-2010, 07:17 AM   #4
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I love speculation about Linux distributions, but in my opinion, slackware 13.1 will either be released very soon and be rather similar to 13.0, or may be released after several months and will get rid of HAL, which is the current trend in the recent Linux distributions.
HAL will not be that easy to get rid of and especially on Slackware.
The only DE that can be 100% HAL free today is Gnome.
KDE still relies on it (there was a recent post about this on planetkde some days ago) & XFCE has very slow development and a release planned for the summer.
Im not sure what the situation with Xorg is at this point, but since Ubuntu (& not Kubuntu) 10.04 claims to deprecate HAL the server must be useable using udev & devicekit.
 
Old 03-12-2010, 07:24 AM   #5
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I like Slack's long release schedule

I hate distros that are in constant flux, like tinycore
soon as you get one setup they have done 2 upgrades?!
 
Old 03-12-2010, 07:34 AM   #6
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Is there any provision for the release of slack13.1?

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It will be released when it is up to PV's standards.
Please be patient.
 
Old 03-12-2010, 07:46 AM   #7
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Hi,

Slackware is like a well prepared meal. You will be called to sit at the table when the savory meal is ready to consume. Patience will be the appetizer before the dinner party.

 
Old 03-12-2010, 07:47 AM   #8
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Heres the link about HAL and KDE: http://rdieter.livejournal.com/17544.html
 
Old 03-12-2010, 07:49 AM   #9
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I think the appetizer is actually "-current" though more like a stream of appetizers -- some tasty, some less so, some more so (mostly more so, definitely), and some -- well, the waiter comes and takes the plate away from you and puts another one down while you're still eating, providing endless entertainment!
 
Old 03-12-2010, 08:04 AM   #10
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im just thankful there is slackware and the support around it,its stable and even if i have to think and workaround a little bit to get my specific hardware working its complete with a full install and i for one think its nice to not have to upgrade and think about dependencies leaving new issues on my system.
Im really impressed by its security and stability,its not easy for for the slackware team i guess to compete with ubuntu and fedora and their corporate backup,i mean i dont really feel safe with thoose dists dont whats going on under the hood(disclaimer on fedora for crypt and option to send feedback)and ubuntu automagicaly searching for updates and so on.
its nice to have slackware it makes me feel safe that its not a new version twice a year.
 
Old 03-12-2010, 08:07 AM   #11
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Hi,

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I think the appetizer is actually "-current" though more like a stream of appetizers -- some tasty, some less so, some more so (mostly more so, definitely), and some -- well, the waiter comes and takes the plate away from you and puts another one down while you're still eating, providing endless entertainment!
You should be sure to include 'Tums' with that appetizer.

 
Old 03-12-2010, 08:23 AM   #12
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Sadly, after some research, I really found that you are right about HAL.

I use GNOME and I got rid of HAL quite easily, downloaded GNOME SlackBuild, modified it a bit, updated gvfs, removed the main devicekit daemon, updated devicekit-disks and devicekit-power, removed HAL, so on. Gvfs compiled automatically with gudev backend. Of course, that's on top of Slackware-current or Slackware 13.0 with updated udev. I had some trouble with gst-plugins-good, but it's ok now.

I also pre-compiled X from a Arch PKGBUILD with a udev patch.
I also updated NetworkManager and PulseAudio, but that is something slackware won't suffer from.

However, since KDE 4.x gets developed pretty rapidly, I guess it will actually get rid of HAL soon. The problem is, it is a bit more monolithic than GNOME.

That probably means that the new Slackware release will come out when X is stabilized, and I believe it already is.

Xfce however gets updated by the ubuntu (Xubuntu) guys, I believe, so no reason to worry about it.

Actually, HAL deprecation is not actually an _EXTREMELY_ important thing to do, but there are much, much nicer implementations of this technology, such as the current udev/devicekit-disks/devicekit-power combination.

I got extremely sick of the HAL fdi files.
 
Old 03-12-2010, 08:34 AM   #13
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Well i like xfce and hope slackware includes it in the future kde is offcourse the main x its more complete but other slackwarebased dists/forks
often use xfce and can get it well integrated in the system without gnome/kde.
A slackware xfce edition for laptops is on my wishlist and i would be the first to order it from slackware.com oh and slackbook 3.0.
 
Old 03-12-2010, 09:00 AM   #14
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I love speculation about Linux distributions, but in my opinion, slackware 13.1 will either be released very soon and be rather similar to 13.0, or may be released after several months and will get rid of HAL, which is the current trend in the recent Linux distributions.
Oh for crying out loud! I thought HAL was supposed to be the bee's knees. I've got a custom HAL rule to get my Thinkpad scroll button to work. X doesn't require an /etc/X11/xorg.conf anymore because HAL handles configuring input devises and the graphics.

<rant>From what I can tell, HAL works quite well. I'd prefer it if Linux developers would stop monkeying with the OS and start doing a lot more to make applications as good as, and then superior to other OS's offerings.</rant>

Oh well...
 
Old 03-12-2010, 09:29 AM   #15
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Hi,

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Oh for crying out loud! I thought HAL was supposed to be the bee's knees. I've got a custom HAL rule to get my Thinkpad scroll button to work. X doesn't require an /etc/X11/xorg.conf anymore because HAL handles configuring input devises and the graphics.

<rant>From what I can tell, HAL works quite well. I'd prefer it if Linux developers would stop monkeying with the OS and start doing a lot more to make applications as good as, and then superior to other OS's offerings.</rant>

Oh well...
Slackware applications are upstream therefore our OS has PV & team working on the important parts to keep a Stable OS; hint.. hint..(The Best OS) Slackware.

 
  


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