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Old 02-04-2007, 01:44 AM   #1
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Is there a Slackware GUI administration tool like Yast???


Hi all,
This is my first post. I like slackware so much than other. I now there is a great tool for suse, yast. is there for slackware or similar??
Hope I can find it..!!
 
Old 02-04-2007, 04:26 AM   #2
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In short: No.

You can use pkgtool for certain smaller tasks like configure networks, set window manager or auto-configure X. Slackware is very much bound to the command line.
 
Old 02-04-2007, 04:45 AM   #3
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Been a while since I last used Slack, but if you have to ask that question, you shouldn't be using Slackware.
Although Gentoo have gone the GUI route - what is the world coming to ... ???.
 
Old 02-04-2007, 06:06 AM   #4
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If you want to try, you could take a look at webmin:- http://www.webmin.com
Not sure how it will fit in with what you are looking for though.
 
Old 02-04-2007, 10:41 AM   #5
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Shiny GUIs come with a price. Slack is perfect just the way it is because it doesn't have RAM gobbling GUIs for administration tasks.
 
Old 02-04-2007, 11:26 AM   #6
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Been a while since I last used Slack, but if you have to ask that question, you shouldn't be using Slackware.
Quite an opinion from a person using open source software "you shouldn't be using [name]". Wow.

yast is a tool, or rather a collection of tools (correct me if I'm wrong), specifically designed to and implemented in suse. The reason there is no "yast for slackware" is that nobody is interested in starting to build one. Usually separate tools work better, and this is how many distributions do the job: if there are graphical tools (like Fedora/RedHat has), they aren't a big pack but rather smaller tools for their own tasks. It's easier if you thik updating and so on..and after some time spent with Linux you should be familiar with command line (I believe many are or will be), and at some point you probably/hopefully find that using command line is generally faster than using a graphical interface. It doesn't apply to everything, but for simple config tasks I need to do, I still haven't found a quicker tool than regular text-editors and the usual UNIX commands (or actually their GNU relatives). Webmin is pretty nice, but I still prefer command line. Yast is something like Windows Control Center, and..well, I just don't like the idea of it as much as I do using console; with command line there are several ways to achieve a goal, with yast (and alike) there is usually one way to achieve a goal. With several options of the way there are better chances to do the task quicker than without any options. For example.
 
Old 02-04-2007, 12:24 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by parcox
Hi all,
This is my first post. I like slackware so much than other. I now there is a great tool for suse, yast. is there for slackware or similar??
Hope I can find it..!!
Sorry, you'll have to switch to Suse then. Still, I'd go with Ubuntu instead ... must boycott Novell at all costs.
 
Old 02-04-2007, 12:52 PM   #8
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Bouncer. Excellent answer.. "use windows, rtfm" and such, give the open-source community a black-eye and really serve no purpose in helping others. slack does have a tool like yast... sort of... but it is scattered across the system. The control center in kde has a few gui tools that might help you with some tasks, pkgtool and netconfig can help, xorgconfig invoked from the console in run level 3 can help get video going the way you want it,
right click on the desktop and select configure desktop can help with screen resolution. Suse 8.2 was my introduction to linux and when I began playing with other distros I missed yast.. a lot. I like to use cfdisk for partitioning and mkreiserfs /dev/hdx... mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/hdx.... mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdx etc. will format the partitions created with cfdisk. I think you have to download ntfs tools to format ntfs partitions, and not have to do anything to the kernel. alsaconf will set up the audio as long as slack found the card and it usually does a pretty good job of finding hardware. There is a thread here entitled "This is how I do it all" by shilo, and it is pretty comprehensive. Good luck and happy slackin
 
Old 02-04-2007, 03:30 PM   #9
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Have a look around my downloads site for ideas, sources or packages. You'll find lots of small mostly GTK-1.2 programs to help flesh-out a small environment:
http://amigolinux.org/
is my site. There's a new listing (+-450) of most of the available progams except for my Project area:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/...RRENT-LIST.txt
 
Old 02-04-2007, 03:50 PM   #10
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I would also say look at Webmin and it's little brother Usermin, they are web-based tools, quite intuitive and Webmin has saved my bacon on a couple of occassions . Ignore those who say if you can't edit kernel code at the command line with ed you you shouln't be using Slackware It's your Slackware GNU/Linux install, you can do what you want with it.

Trust me, its far better to use a GUI tool (which should limit the damage you can do, but not always) than edit a config file by hand when you don't know what you are doing. You can always do the basic stuff in the GUI and then fine-tune by hand, thats one of the easier ways to learn editing config files at the command line.

And remember always read the fine manual.

EDIT: pkgtool is actually an incredibly useful GUI tool. I reckon certain other distros would benefit from it. And yes, ncurses counts as a GUI

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Old 02-04-2007, 04:07 PM   #11
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A small addition to what I wrote before and what the other posters said.
Maybe the most powerful GUI tool for configuring Slackware is in fact:

http://www.linuxquestions.org

I wouldn't overestimate pkgtool, honestly. And I wouldn't really recommend webmin.
 
Old 02-04-2007, 08:45 PM   #12
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Wink Kommander Editor

Hi there

Slackware does include a graphical script tool (actually they are scripts but look a lot like "normal" X apps) called Kommander. There is a creator/editor (Kommander Editor) and a "runtime" that executes them (Kommander Executor).

If there would be any need for a "GUI" configuration tool, I suggest building one Some distros like Kurumin (www.guiadohardware.net - in Portuguese) with a nice "control panel" called "Clica Aki" ("Click Here") ; or SLAX with the network configuration tool for example are using Kommander scripts.

You can build one in minutes and make it look nice. They work better in KDE but they also would work in GNOME if you have the libraries. You can even make a Kommander script actually execute command line tools -as a front-end for them- and make it "look" GUI, just take a look at the .kmdr file in the SLAX Network Configurator (it uses ifconfig, route and echo and stuff like that and still looks like any GUI).

Greetings.
 
Old 02-04-2007, 09:17 PM   #13
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Eh? That stuff is not in Slackware.

OP: You're probably better off using Vector Linux first to familiarlize yourself with a Slackware-like system. It has a consolidated administration tool.
 
Old 02-04-2007, 09:21 PM   #14
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I use Slackware so that I don't have to use something like YAST.



BTW - I have used SuSE and YAST in the past. It drives me nuts that a GUI makes changes to files and I don't know what files are being changed.

Last edited by diskoe; 02-04-2007 at 09:23 PM.
 
Old 02-04-2007, 09:23 PM   #15
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I use Slackware so that I don't have to use something like YAST.

Exactly !!!
 
  


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