Is Linux's graphics better than....
 

Anyone Who has seen an apple computer would know that they are great for their Graphic designnig and Image editing and enhacing.

Cause I'm new at this Linux, I was just wondering that is Mac better at graphics then Linux?? and How is it?? Can you make Linux better than Mac??

Thanks
Chris:rolleyes:

If you are patient, and you have LOTS of time to learn, and you like to read, then yes you can "make Linux better than Mac"
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If you want to check out some of the things that linux can do without installing it, go here:

http://www.distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=cd

find a distro that suits you, download and burn the .ISO image, reboot your PC with the CD in, and presto; you can see for yourself if linux is better then Mac without breaking your machine.

Murray

I really haven't seen anything to convince me that Macs are any better than any other platform for image editing and other graphic activities. There might me marginal differences between Mac and Windows as far as graphics performance goes, but that depends more on what hardware you have than what platform you're using. Personally, I think the whole "macs are good for art" notion is a myth, probably perpetuated because many artists are not interested in learning much about computers.

For sheer availability and diversity of graphics software, Linux beats both of them hands down :)

What do you think about Mac??
 

hey wapcaplet

Yeah but major film animation studios, like PIXAR, Dreamwork always use Macintosh to produce their graphics, because Macintosh like no other computer, it is uncrashable, it bascally means that it doesn't crash, plus their High resoloution Technology is not even available for the pcs.

And also FREE 3d graphic software for linux is not as good as the paid ones for Mac, like Maya, lightwave, cinema 4D.

My point is Linux has alot to catch up with windows and Mac , specially the technology, I believe that no matter how hard we try linux is sooner or later going to be like windows or mac where you have to pay loads for their hard work, cause NOONE is just going to program Amazing software for linux for FREE.

But i mean who the hell am i, its just an opion!!
Tell me what you think??
:newbie: :scratch:

Macs are no better than anything else on the workstation side... Look at benchmarks from photoshop, premiere, maya, lightwave, etc. All those programs are for x86 too. Macs always lose. As far as the Mac clusters that Pixar, etc. use, you cant really compare them to x86 because they operate differently. I would bet an Opteron-based cluster would kick the shit out of them, but Opterons are still relatively new and all the clusters of Opterons are being used for scientific purposes right now.
The reason the Mac OS is so stable is because it is a UNIX OS, just like linux.
I believe PCWorld and Anandtech had a head-to-head of a Pentium4, Athlon-64, and dual-Opteron vs. the dual-G5 system and the G5 system got smoked.
The only reason Apple is still a company is because of Pixar, Dreamworks, etc., and those companies dont want to throw away their million-dollar clusters and training of the workers to switch to x86.

has anyone actually had expirence editing graphics files (1 gig + in size) on a linux machine?? I see it done it done everyday where i work on a mac (osx). But does anyone have any exp. doing this type of graphics editing on a linux machine?

If so:

How was/is performace?
What application did ou use to edit with?

thanks
trey

Re: What do you think about Mac??
 

Maybe they once used Macs, but it sounds like Pixar uses Linux now, and has SGI IRIX workstations. Dreamworks also uses Linux for rendering, with SGI workstations. The software available for any given platform is pretty irrelevant in those cases, since they use in-house software for most things. SGI for years has been the definitive platform for high-end graphics; my university's computer art lab had nothing but SGI in it. Rendering and other CPU-intensive tasks are moving towards Linux clusters nowadays, because of their cheapness and ease of maintenance. It's a lot cheaper to buy twenty Linux boxes and make a Beowulf cluster than it is to shell out enough cash for an SGI Onyx or something.

That is probably true. Companies with lots of revenue generally have better resources for producing complex software like that. The only 3D SGI software I've used is Softimage; Maya looked nice; Rhino3D and 3D Studio MAX for Windows are excellent programs, but have a look at Blender, which I believe is quite comparable to any of those, and is open-source as well as free (beer).

That's simply not true. Linux itself is amazing software, and was programmed for free. Practically all of the software available for Linux is free and/or was programmed by volunteers. History has already shown us that amazing software can be free!

Re: What do you think about Mac??
 

Erm, no they're not. They are very stable, but that isn't the same as being uncrashable. Just as a side, have you ever seen the "BSOD" screensaver for Linux? Where do you think they got the Mac-has-crashed screen from?

If anything, if you have a good mac - use it and its software, but if you have a piece of crap pc like most others, use linux. I would switch over to a nice g5 without as second thought and use their editing, I edit viedeos for my church - and yes it is uncrashable :P. They, in my opinion, have the best processor, software etc for videos. And they are easy to use, and are very good on many other levels of work/gaming. I would still put linux on my mac, just because its nice in some ways mac isn't, but 10.3 panther is the best out their for animation/video/graphics

Hope this helped you out!
L8r

Macs are overrated... You'd fine applications which are just as good on the Windows platform. If you consider The Gimp to be good, then hey, there's another good graphics app on Linux.

Macs don't crash? You gotta be kidding me. I see crashing Macs almost daily, admittedly not as frequent as Windows though.

OK, I'll take the bait. My Mac hasn't crashed (for a software-related reason) since early 2002. It crashed a couple times when I was running 10.0... 10.3 is fast and rock-solid. Maybe you're talking about legacy (OS 9) Macs?

h3pc4t, i cant remember the last time my windows pc crashed except because of my overclocking. Windows boxes dont just crash all the time, most of the time they do its because of all the crap that users put on the pc's along with viruses, etc. I love Linux too, but I dont use it because its sooo stable or anything, I do it to learn a new OS that can do anything you want and its free.
I dont have anything against Mac's, but the only reason they are stable is because its based off a very stable Unix. And if Mac's had half the market share that Windows has, they would probably crash alot more too.

Computers shouldn't crash just because the user puts a lot of crap on them. In any modern operating system, this does not happen.

Macs are "only" stable because they're based on unix. What's your point? Also, I don't really see how market share has anything to do with stability. The computer doesn't check the internet to find out Apple's marketshare before it kernel panics.

I would have to agree with what arrruken said. I use Windows for dedicated professional multitrack audio - in the 2 years that I have been using XP - I can honestly say that my audio pc has crashed 2 times. Bugs, on the other hand, are a little more frequent - In the time frame of about a month - I may get a window popup crying about some problem once or twice a month. I am using this machine at least 60 hours per week (on average) for the last 2 years. Of course from time to time I reinstall If I get a bunch of new hardware - but generally Windows has proven pretty solid for THIS PURPOSE. I think the majority of the problems start happening when programs such as Kazaa are thrown into the mix. But, I also believe on a whole, Windows is the least stable flavor out there - I have been running Slackware for DAYS and DAYS with no problems at all - I love it.

It really comes down to the fact that we are all craftsmen of some type, how you choose your "tools" is up to you - how you feel comfortable is a big part of it. It is of my opinion that if you put together a decent PC with decent quality parts - and you spend the time to choose your parts wisely and fine tune your os - they are all (Linux (expecially) Windows and Mac) pretty stable.

Now, if you wanna talk about the blatant fleecing, raping and robbing of the average consumer.... well, that's definitly a whole other story ;)

This is why I hate discussing about the Mac at all... they don't have users, only Steve Jobbs worshipping sheeps. The level of Mac fanaticism surpases even that of uber-purist GNU evangelists.

I don't friggin care if your Mac hasn't crashed for 1000 years... I'm not talking about your Mac... I'm talking about the Mac (running MacOS X)lab at my workplace. The Win XP machine the my Mrs uses also haven't crashed for a long time, but I see crashing XPs almost every day at work. So just because you haven't had your Mac crash, it doesn't mean that they don't.

And when I say Macs crash, I mean Macs crash... I'm not saying that I will come to your house, smash your furniture and pee on your carpet... Stop taking it so personally... and in case you don't realize it, it's just a computer!

And good God, on the Slackware forum... can a mod please move this to General... at least it'll make more sense there.