[SOLVED] Installing slack in a notebook with only hdd and usb memory stick as storage devices?

a4z · 03-10-2015, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ReaperX7

Unfortunately the industry sees thumb drives as reusable non-archival media, and really that's what they are and I doubt that will change.

I do not get the context, but I think this is not important.

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Originally Posted by ReaperX7

Yes, plastics and the such are "bad" for the environment, but then again, unless you're one who may be unfortunate enough to have a low quality CD/DVD/BR disk burner that, even at the lowest speeds, can't effectively write to media without an error, how often does one waste a blank disk?

I don't know, I do nut use CD/DVD any more since years. I have a disc with a lot of iso images, and when I need one I dump it to usb stick. same with backup.
for me CD/DVD is a stupid idea influenced by the content mafia and I hope it will disappear as soon as possible.

bormant · 03-10-2015, 03:42 AM

Another Windows option is http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/

ReaperX7 · 03-10-2015, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by a4z

I do not get the context, but I think this is not important.

I don't know, I do nut use CD/DVD any more since years. I have a disc with a lot of iso images, and when I need one I dump it to usb stick. same with backup.
for me CD/DVD is a stupid idea influenced by the content mafia and I hope it will disappear as soon as possible.

Optical media will probably never go away, only expand. Why? It's highly portable and archival. The floppy disk in it's time showed portable media for archival purposes was extremely useful. Floppy expanded to Super Floppy, then into ZIP/Jazz before it could go no further only to be replaced by CD-ROMs and DVD-ROMs, and those expanded to HD-DVD and BluRay. The reason optical media has surpassed magnetic media is stability of written data. The only way to ruin the data written is to destroy the disk itself.

The problem of RAM drives is durability over time. While with an optical disk, the media is written and can not be erased once finalized. The data may be static in nature but it's stable and so is the media it's on. With RAM based devices you can rewrite data, but for how many times before the drive degrades. Even then it uses any number of filesystems that can suffer from corruption from various things. Improper dismounts, crashes, or unintended writes can destroy data. Usually filesystems like ExFAT are used for these drives. ExFAT may be the latest incarnation of V/FAT/12/16/32, but it's still one of the most easily corrupted file systems known. NTFS usually isn't useful for thumb drives, nor is any format that does a shadowed journal write. It's somewhat more stable, and I have a few high capacity storage usb drives using NTFS as well.

I too keep a long term storage drive filled with ISOs of various rescue, recovery, live, and install media. Usually I can get away with mounting an ISO to a virtual drive and not use written media disks, but I do keep a handy-dandy stack of 250 DVD+R Industrial Grade disks in my cabinet to use when absolutely necessary.

a4z · 03-10-2015, 08:42 AM

you know that optical disk are only durable when they are pressed, not burned?

stf92 · 03-10-2015, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Didier Spaier

Follow the instructions in http://slint.fr/installer.html. In brief:

In Linux use the dd command as advised in that page to put the ISO image on the USB stick (or pendrive)
In Windows download and use the Rufus application to do that with a GUI.

Is something unclear?

I have Slint up and runnning on the notebook. But I could not make it connect to the Internet. May it be because it's Wi-Fi?

Didier Spaier · 03-10-2015, 01:25 PM

Good.

As root, run "netconfig", then when asked choose to connect through NetworkManager.

Then either reboot or run "/etc/rc.d/rc/networkmanager restart"

Then run as regular user "nm-applet &" and use the widget that will appear on the tray to set up your connection (right or left click on it).

Diantre · 03-10-2015, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by a4z

you know that optical disk are only durable when they are pressed, not burned?

Well, that depends on the quality, handling and storage of the burned discs. While it's true the pressed discs have a longer life, a burned disc can last for a long time without degrading. For instance, I still have the cdrom where I burned Slackware 4 in perfect condition. No scratches, no dust, properly stored. Can you guess how old is that cdrom?

ReaperX7 · 03-10-2015, 03:34 PM

Plus, if you use a lower burn speed with error correction, and a high quality disk, professional grade, you can actually get a very high quality burn out of the disk. I have disks from the mid 90s I burned personally and they still are viable. Pressed disks are one thing, yes, but when you take the time to burn for quality, they last a long time, and yes, storage matters as well. You really never hear of a compact style disk suffering from bit-rot.

stf92 · 03-12-2015, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Didier Spaier

Good.

As root, run "netconfig", then when asked choose to connect through NetworkManager.

Then either reboot or run "/etc/rc.d/rc/networkmanager restart"

Then run as regular user "nm-applet &" and use the widget that will appear on the tray to set up your connection (right or left click on it).

I have NetworkManager running and also ran nm-applet. Now, on the widget, I
have:

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Ethernet Network
  disconnected
Wi-Fi Network
  disconnected
Available
[here a list of providers]
VPN Connections
Connect to hidden Wi-Fi network
Create New Wi-Fi network

The ISP is Telecom. What should the next step be?

Didier Spaier · 03-12-2015, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by stf92

I have NetworkManager running and also ran nm-applet. Now, on the widget, I
have:

Code:

Ethernet Network
  disconnected
Wi-Fi Network
  disconnected
Available
[here a list of providers]
VPN Connections
Connect to hidden Wi-Fi network
Create New Wi-Fi network

The ISP is Telecom. What should the next step be?

Assuming that Telecom shows in the list of providers, just left click on it and provide a password if asked.

stf92 · 03-15-2015, 12:17 PM

Are the CD ISO images hybrid (booteable from pendrive too) too? Or only the DVD ones are?

Alien Bob · 03-15-2015, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stf92

Are the CD ISO images hybrid (booteable from pendrive too) too? Or only the DVD ones are?

You always want other people to do your homework, don't you?

From http://taper.alienbase.nl/mirrors/sl.../RELEASE_NOTES

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    Slackware ISO images (both the ones available online as well as
the discs sent out from the Slackware store) have been processed using
isohybrid.  This allows them to be written to a USB stick, which can
then be booted and used as the install source.  This works on machines
running both regular BIOS as well as UEFI.

stf92 · 03-15-2015, 02:53 PM

And what if I do? Gently go mind your business. One of these days you;ll get an answer you won;t like.

Didier Spaier · 03-15-2015, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stf92

And what if I do? Gently go mind your business. One of these days you;ll get an answer you won;t like.

If you do that you won't get any more help at least from me. Ever thought of being grateful for all the help you have received from all of us so far? Or do you think that we ought you the time we spend (I was about to say "waste") answering your questions?