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Old 09-25-2009, 07:04 PM   #76
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sahko View Post
Id like to quote this cause what you wrote makes it sound, at least to me, that sbopkg is an alternative to pkgtool. Which is not. Sbopkg is just a collection of scripts which build packages from slackbuilds.org, a SlackBuild script resource which supplements the packages of the official Slackware tree with unsupported applications. You cant use sbopkg to deal with official Slackware packages.
Well, actually, right now it's just the one script with several data files - though the main configuration file is a bunch of variable assignments.

But, otherwise, exactly right: sbopkg is in no way a substitute/alternative for pkgtools. It actually requires pkgtools to work, as it runs the SlackBuilds which call makepkg(8) and it directly calls upgradepkg(8) and removepkg(8). It is approximately to SBo (and slamd64 and local repos) as pkgtool(s) is/are to stock Slackware - and just like SBo is to Slackware, it's an addon, not a replacement.

I know you two got clear on this, but since I was mentioning that it wasn't exactly a collection of scripts, I just want to underline the core point again. I hate to think that's a common misperception.
 
Old 09-26-2009, 04:24 AM   #77
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... I tried so many before slackware that my desk of CDs looked like the plasma screen...
well, that's one of the advantages of Gentoo. You'll definitely do not need a CD (provided you are running any distro on the computer).

Markus

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Old 09-26-2009, 04:45 AM   #78
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I would be interested in Zenwalk I suppose, but most likely arch linux. Close to Slackware in philosophy....more minimal than I would normally like, but not so much an issue. Otherwise, probably Free or NetBSD. Definitely not OpenBSD or Gentoo. A failed focus on security or needlessly recompiling your entire system...no thanks.
 
Old 09-26-2009, 06:50 AM   #79
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I'd like to try Gentoo, LFS and NetBSD (liked pkgsrc idea, want to try UNIX). Chose them because I never used them before, just read about. And I'd really don't like to fallback to any other mainstream distro I used to use before.
 
Old 09-28-2009, 07:02 PM   #80
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@~sHyLoCk~

I finished
my report about FreeBSD. I'm back in Slackware. Home, sweet home!
 
Old 09-28-2009, 07:22 PM   #81
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well, that's one of the advantages of Gentoo. You'll definitely do not need a CD (provided you are running any distro on the computer).

Markus
Slackware doesnt need one either. And neither do many other distributions. Probably all of them.
 
Old 09-28-2009, 08:12 PM   #82
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if not Slackware then i choose in this order :

-FreeBSD , Crux Linux , Arch Linux , NetBSD.
 
Old 09-28-2009, 09:27 PM   #83
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@~sHyLoCk~

I finished
my report about FreeBSD. I'm back in Slackware. Home, sweet home!
Thanks a lot w1k0 for taking the time to make the elaborate post. Well my experience with FreeBSD was short lived and I haven't used it much that's why I was curious to know bout it. Thanks for sharing.
 
Old 09-29-2009, 02:58 AM   #84
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Slackware doesnt need one either. And neither do many other distributions. Probably all of them.
Well, you are right. I refer to the installation-method which a newbie to this distribution would choose.
For me it was a great advantage to fiddle around with my new Gentoo while I could work with Slackware at the same time.

Markus
 
Old 09-29-2009, 05:19 AM   #85
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Definitely not OpenBSD or Gentoo. A failed focus on security or needlessly recompiling your entire system...no thanks.
Josh, I'm curious, what do you mean when you say failed focus on security? In what way have they failed?
 
Old 09-29-2009, 08:58 AM   #86
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Josh, I'm curious, what do you mean when you say failed focus on security? In what way have they failed?
i think he means the OpenBSD project is paranoic on security and gentoo is
too much time consuming compiling.

sorry my bad english
 
Old 09-29-2009, 01:42 PM   #87
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Well , i have had success with mepis on my laptop , everything working (old compaq 700mghz)....but my first choice is always slackware ,12.1 in my case on two machines and xp on the wife's coomputer.......no complaints...have a good day
 
Old 09-29-2009, 04:37 PM   #88
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I really hate to say it...

...But Vista Ultimate is what I run when I can't use SW13-64.

Why? Because it works.

It plays my games and my childrens games without a ton of work-arounds (Eek..wine..what a pain).

Yahoo works, with all it's latest bells and whistles (Not the feature poor version you get with the linux version. As for other IM clients...Well..Let's just say I've tried them all.).

And, Holy Nudists, Batman! All the versions of Flash work without a fuss. (No "Cannot display content on this page" messages)

Movies play. (Not as many codecs as my usual install of Linux, but all CAN play)

Programs auto-update (Which is also bad, in my book. I HATE losing whatever little control of my OS I have...But it DOES work)

Don't get me wrong. I LOVE SW. But, linux as a whole does need some user improvements, and hardware/software recognition from major vendors. It's getting there, but slowly.

99% of the time it's Slackware. The rest is Vista Ultimate. (Or maybe Windows 7 if it ever gets out of the vaporware stage)

But until the above are addressed/working, I'll have to dual-boot Vista
 
Old 09-30-2009, 07:31 AM   #89
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Suse, been with it for six years, and WinXP running in VirtualBox.
 
Old 09-30-2009, 07:55 AM   #90
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Originally Posted by cwwilson721 View Post
...But Vista Ultimate is what I run when I can't use SW13-64.

Why? Because it works.

It plays my games and my childrens games without a ton of work-arounds (Eek..wine..what a pain).

Yahoo works, with all it's latest bells and whistles (Not the feature poor version you get with the linux version. As for other IM clients...Well..Let's just say I've tried them all.).

And, Holy Nudists, Batman! All the versions of Flash work without a fuss. (No "Cannot display content on this page" messages)

Movies play. (Not as many codecs as my usual install of Linux, but all CAN play)

Programs auto-update (Which is also bad, in my book. I HATE losing whatever little control of my OS I have...But it DOES work)

Don't get me wrong. I LOVE SW. But, linux as a whole does need some user improvements, and hardware/software recognition from major vendors. It's getting there, but slowly.

99% of the time it's Slackware. The rest is Vista Ultimate. (Or maybe Windows 7 if it ever gets out of the vaporware stage)

But until the above are addressed/working, I'll have to dual-boot Vista
Hmm, all of those things work in slackware except for the auto updating, sounds much more like an issue of convenience/time. I have kids too so I completely understand where you are coming from. Agreed wine can be a pain, it took me a lot of hours of trial and error to get it to function the way I want it to. Honestly however the codecs I found easy to get up and running. I also didn't have any problems with flash (this time), but have in the past. I haven't used Yahoo since the browser version came out but last time I checked no *nix version was as good as the windows in that the webcam didn't work. My wife actually managed to hack that in *nix but I didn't ask how.
 
  


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