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Does BSD licensing bother you? As an end-user it shouldn't matter, but jut think from a developer's point of view. I'm just asking out of curiosity, personally I don't use BSD anymore.
I'm not sure if your question is directed at me because I can't seem to get threading working on this forum. My own view, as an overworked sysadmin, is that it is good to have variety - one OS works well as a Squid proxy, another as a Samba server, another as a general purpose desktop. I am forced by the exigencies of my work to choose what is available and works best now, mainly for small businesses who can't afford proprietary server software. I do realise that in ten years' time the OSes I choose now may not be around, or may have been so badly compromised by patent issues and proprietary claims that they can no longer be used the way I use them today, but I have no control over the pace of change in the computer industry. I only hope that those more intelligent than I continue to develop Unix-based, freely available OSes with the same spirit of generosity that motivates them to do so today. I think that is the intent behind both licences, if not quite the legal interpretation.
FreeBSD, or maybe Gentoo. Debian was not customizable and new enough for me, packages too old, especially firefox and KDE. I updated to Testing, it broke with a bug of annoying messages in bash and slow responsiveness and booting that had been there for months, so I left. Gotta depend more on myself rather than the developers.
I choose FreeBSD, which I used for some good time and love. Make a good desktop! Also tried PC-BSD and hated it already in the first seconds! And I'm not even talking about that pbi system. Someday will try MidnightBSD... NetBSD, DragonFly and OpenBSD are on the way. MirOS catches my attention too. If I'not mistaken it's based on OpenBSD.
Marked Debian which I think gives a lot of possibilities.
And, of course, last but not least, LFS.
I should also mention that I'll eventually find my way to an operating system with a micro kernel. I made that decision a couple of years ago. I've been closely following Minix 3 and Helen OS. Both of these micro kernel based operating systems are making good, steady progress. In the immediate future, probably 2010 or 2011, I'll likely switch to one of them permanently.
Micro kernels don't have to be slow as QNX's Neutrino has amply demonstrated.
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As I mentioned above my second choice operating system would be FreeBSD. I spent two days installing and configuring that system because I wanted to get to know the basics of FreeBSD. After two days of the work I have the system with working basic services: X Window and PPPoE. I’m still disappointed with the work of some programs (xterm and Midnight Commander), some commands (su and mount) and some devices (keyboard and mouse). I got working system but the way to tune it up is very long.
I’m still disappointed with the work of some programs (xterm and Midnight Commander), some commands (su and mount) and some devices (keyboard and mouse). I got working system but the way to tune it up is very long.
Yeah that stumped me as well for a bit. To get a fully working USB keyboard and mouse in FreeBSD you need to add this
dbus_enable="YES"
hald_enable="YES"
to /etc/rc.conf
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Originally Posted by hitest
Yeah that stumped me as well for a bit. To get a fully working USB keyboard and mouse in FreeBSD you need to add this
dbus_enable="YES"
hald_enable="YES"
to /etc/rc.conf
I found that information in the Handbook and I did it at the same beginning. Despite of it I have a lot of problems with the mouse and the keyboard:
* Mouse scroll (both TrackPoint and Touch Pad) doesn't work at all. * Paste function works only with the simulation of the middle button by buttons left and right (it started to work after I put in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ directory FDI files which I use in Linux -- before it didn't work at all).
* Polish keyboard doesn't work in CLI nor in X Window despite I installed it during set up procedures.
* Midnight Commander displays strange characters (including Polish diacritics) instead of the frames.
* Auto-complete function doesn't work for regular users -- it works for root.
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* Third mouse button doesn't work at all.
* Third mouse button's emulation works in X Window and doesn't work in the console mode independently of HAL.
* HAL completely ignores my FDI files.
* Midnight Commander has spoiled frames in the console mode only.
* Third mouse button and scrolling work with external USB mouse but don't work with ThinkPad's TrackPoint and TouchPad.
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Last edited by w1k0; 09-22-2009 at 01:40 PM.
Reason: errata & update
I found that information in the Handbook and I did it at the same beginning. Despite of it I have a lot of problems with the mouse and the keyboard:
* Mouse scroll (both TrackPoint and Touch Pad) doesn't work at all.
* Paste function works only with the simulation of the middle button by buttons left and right (it started to work after I put in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ directory FDI files which I use in Linux -- before it didn't work at all).
* Polish keyboard doesn't work in CLI nor in X Window despite I installed it during set up procedures.
* Midnight Commander displays strange characters (including Polish diacritics) instead of the frames.
* Auto-complete function doesn't work for regular users -- it works for root.
Bummer. Maybe that is an issue with a polish keyboard in FreeBSD. My keyboard, mouse functioned properly for me using a US layout. But, I agree that FreeBSD hardware support is not as good as in Linux. This is one of the many reasons why I've switched entirely to Slackware. I like FreeBSD, but, I'm done with it for now.
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