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Yaakov Ben-Avraham 05-20-2013 02:52 PM

I can't run X window without network connectivity...
 
I can't run X window without network connectivity in Slackware 14.0
Previous versions allowed me to run X window without the internet being up and running. Is this by design? Is there a work-around to allow me to run X without requiring internet connectivity?

Thor_2.0 05-20-2013 03:04 PM

Who claims that it is X that needs Internet? Could it be something that needs X, that needs the Internet? I'd sniff tru the applications that run in your X session and check which ones need the Internet.

By the way, is there a profound reason NOT to connect to the Net? Security can be enforced by other means...

Just thinking-n-typing out loud... :)

Thor

Didier Spaier 05-20-2013 03:05 PM

Assuming you start Slackware at run level 3, what happens when you type "startx"?

Please at least attach /var/log/Xorg.0.log to your next post, otherwise it will be very difficult to diagnose your problem.

As far as I know there is no relation between an internet connection and X.

Thor_2.0 05-20-2013 03:20 PM

Quote:

As far as I know there is no relation between an internet connection and X
(hence my own confusion"...)

Yaakov Ben-Avraham 05-20-2013 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didier Spaier (Post 4955099)
Assuming you start Slackware at run level 3, what happens when you type "startx"?

Please at least attach /var/log/X0.log to your next post, otherwise it will be very difficult to diagnose your problem.

As far as I know there is no relation between an internet connection and X.

The command "startx" will not run unless the Internet is connected.
The file /var/log/x0.log is not created if "startx" is typed
and the internet is not connected. Slackware 14.0 just
hangs the console until ^C is typed if this is tried.

BroX 05-20-2013 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yaakov Ben-Avraham (Post 4955184)
The file /var/log/x0.log is not created if "startx" is typed

Just in case: log file is /var/log/Xorg.0.log without typo ;)

ttk 05-20-2013 05:14 PM

I ran into a similar problem a while back, and it was because I had DISPLAY=localhost:0 set in my environment. Changing this to DISPLAY=:0 fixed it. I don't know if that's your problem, but perhaps you could check.

Yaakov Ben-Avraham 05-20-2013 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ttk (Post 4955195)
I ran into a similar problem a while back, and it was because I had DISPLAY=localhost:0 set in my environment. Changing this to DISPLAY=:0 fixed it. I don't know if that's your problem, but perhaps you could check.

I can find no references to Display or Localhost in my environment table.

mrclisdue 05-20-2013 06:29 PM

Which wm are you running? Is there anything in your .xinitrc that may yield any clues?

cheers,

TommyC7 05-20-2013 06:31 PM

Are you booting into runlevel 3 or runlevel 4?

Also, how is the connection being made? rc.inet1, NetworkManager or wicd?

gsl 05-20-2013 06:38 PM

Does startx hang forever or does X start eventually (after 10+ seconds)? If you run 'hostname -f' does it take a while to complete while plain 'hostname' completes immediately? That was the cause of the problem for me when I found X would not start promptly when the network was down. I just edited /usr/bin/startx to replace 'hostname -f' with 'hostname'.

Geoff.

Yaakov Ben-Avraham 05-20-2013 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsl (Post 4955236)
Does startx hang forever or does X start eventually (after 10+ seconds)? If you run 'hostname -f' does it take a while to complete while plain 'hostname' completes immediately? That was the cause of the problem for me when I found X would not start promptly when the network was down. I just edited /usr/bin/startx to replace 'hostname -f' with 'hostname'.

Geoff.

That was indeed the work-around. Remove the -f from `hostname -f` in startx

This begs the question "Why does `hostname -f` complete instantly in Slackware 13.37 and hang for so long in Slackware 14.0?"

gsl 05-20-2013 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yaakov Ben-Avraham (Post 4955264)
This begs the question "Why does `hostname -f` complete instantly in Slackware 13.37 and hang for so long in Slackware 14.0?"

This news thread suggests it might be because hostname on 14.0 supports IPv6 whereas 13.37 and before doesn't? As my /etc/hosts doesn't have an IPv6 entry for localhost, hostname was doing a DNS lookup.

Geoff.


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