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Old 11-17-2008, 04:00 PM   #31
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I think ya'll scared him off.
 
Old 11-17-2008, 04:00 PM   #32
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Use some of the frontends for mplayer if you are lazy to type.
 
Old 11-17-2008, 04:30 PM   #33
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Use some of the frontends for mplayer if you are lazy to type.
I'm not lazy to type, when there is real need for that.
But why should I use mplayer and its' frontend when I have another DVD player, that works just fine? I've tried to use mplayer for DVDs some time ago, and didn't like it. Since that time I've found another player only for DVDs and use mplayer for anything else. So, why I should get rid from DVD-only player and recompile mplayer, when I'm happy with the way things are now, and there is this thread about Mplayer and DVDs? Looks like waste of time to me. Switching DVD-player now won't make using my system any easier(readuce amount of typing, mouse clicks, etc), and it won't give sufficient benefits, but it will take time. So why should I bother with it?
 
Old 11-17-2008, 10:54 PM   #34
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As I understand the problem was if it is easy to watch dvds with mplayer and also have menus. So the answer is yes and there is no need to install vlc, if you've already installed mplayer. Mplayer + gui is like any other player here around. And of course, you can always use xine without installing anything.

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Old 11-18-2008, 12:54 AM   #35
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I don't like MPlayer for DVDs either. Great for media files, but I think DVDs are best left to Xine or one of its front-ends. (I like Kaffeine.)
 
Old 11-18-2008, 02:28 AM   #36
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haha... excuse me but I find the first post really amusing. I normally use a dvd player to watch movies. No X, Y or Z problem with that. ;D
 
Old 11-18-2008, 03:49 AM   #37
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mplayer dvd://
usually works for me, although some dvd's (as explained in a previous post) will show some stupid title sequence and then stop

I am using mythbuntu for my media needs, I rather like it
 
Old 11-20-2008, 04:55 PM   #38
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BTW,

As I said, I couldn't watch a DVD neither open a floppy...

I will make myself clear:

My keyboard also is wrong... I changed it a lot of times, I only have " | " and " \ " in graphical mode, not under KDE

My screen also as seen wrongly, it is a LG Studioworks 563A, but it is seen as 563C . Not so important since it doesn't change anything (same resolution, etc...)

My eth1 wasn't working also; these is a Realtek I used the last years, including with the old 10.1 install. Now I changed to eth0, the onboard one.

With the sound card the same... had to stop using mu own and start using the on board one.

And OF COURSE I had to edit the mouse by hand to have the scroll working... like always..

So there are 3 points :

1- Almost NOTHING worked; I had/have different problems with sound card, netcard, screen, floppy, DVD, mouse and keyboard (those last two are Mycrosoft)

2- Slack we can say is not to blame by these problems.. we must blame this ignorant user that I am, X, KDE, HAL, God, and the Devil

3- While trying to install I used to experiment some LiveCds, like Kurumim, Slax, Kubuntu and almost all that worked without problems... EVEN the mouse...

So I must conclude that is was possible to have a Slackware 12.1 that could make a fresh install if not like the other bad distros, at least make a fresh install like Slack 10.1...

I thought that I'd lose a lot of time to install my preferred apps., and to do things like MySQL work, but instead I am instill try to make obvious things work... and of course other stuff like the MySQL dies as quickly as starts after boot... maybe in one more week I have time to do with it :-)

Again, since I need to work, I have a new notebook with Kubuntu (Slack refused to install ...)

I believe that people who really love Slack should see that there are more problems then it should, instead of refuse to see reality.
 
Old 11-20-2008, 05:24 PM   #39
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I just make things work and don't bitch about it..........
 
Old 11-20-2008, 07:54 PM   #40
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I believe that people who really love Slack should see that there are more problems then it should, instead of refuse to see reality.
I really love Slack:-) I've learned from experience that if I'm having difficulty configuring something in Slackware that someone else has encountered the same issue. Man pages are helpful, how tos, google/linux, the LQ Slackware forum, and the Slackbook.
Slackers like to tinker and make things work:-)
 
Old 11-20-2008, 08:56 PM   #41
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Sorry to hear about all your troubles, I usually find things work well, especially with 12.1

I have in the past bought new hardware because cheap non-OEM hardware is not well supported.

I don't see why your keyboard doesn't work well, maybe if you set your locale correctly in you xorg.conf file things might be better? Is it all the keys or just the special keys (like volume controls etc)?
 
Old 11-20-2008, 09:44 PM   #42
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BTW,

As I said, I couldn't watch a DVD neither open a floppy...

I will make myself clear:

My keyboard also is wrong... I changed it a lot of times, I only have " | " and " \ " in graphical mode, not under KDE

My screen also as seen wrongly, it is a LG Studioworks 563A, but it is seen as 563C . Not so important since it doesn't change anything (same resolution, etc...)

My eth1 wasn't working also; these is a Realtek I used the last years, including with the old 10.1 install. Now I changed to eth0, the onboard one.

With the sound card the same... had to stop using mu own and start using the on board one.

And OF COURSE I had to edit the mouse by hand to have the scroll working... like always..

So there are 3 points :

1- Almost NOTHING worked; I had/have different problems with sound card, netcard, screen, floppy, DVD, mouse and keyboard (those last two are Mycrosoft)

2- Slack we can say is not to blame by these problems.. we must blame this ignorant user that I am, X, KDE, HAL, God, and the Devil

3- While trying to install I used to experiment some LiveCds, like Kurumim, Slax, Kubuntu and almost all that worked without problems... EVEN the mouse...

So I must conclude that is was possible to have a Slackware 12.1 that could make a fresh install if not like the other bad distros, at least make a fresh install like Slack 10.1...

I thought that I'd lose a lot of time to install my preferred apps., and to do things like MySQL work, but instead I am instill try to make obvious things work... and of course other stuff like the MySQL dies as quickly as starts after boot... maybe in one more week I have time to do with it :-)

Again, since I need to work, I have a new notebook with Kubuntu (Slack refused to install ...)

I believe that people who really love Slack should see that there are more problems then it should, instead of refuse to see reality.
It doesn't seem like you want to get this working. Most of those problems are very likely configuration errors (the keyboard thing in X is clearly a badly written xorg.conf, unless it happens in the CLI as well in which case it may be a UTF8 thing). The screen issue is pointless -- Linux doesn't really care what the screen is called. As long as the settings are correct, it won't damage your screen. I have never needed to check any software to see which screen I have...

Multiple network cards are likely a configuration error. Note that you may need to define some udev rules to keep the cards defined properly (though I don't really think this is necessary). Note also that `netconfig` only defines eth0, so for eth1 you would just have to edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf. I have also had trouble with *some* Realtek cards (the same problem in both Windows and Linux) where I have had to limit the card to half-duplex, 10 Mbps instead of full, 100Mbps (some other people don't have to limit the speed but have to define the speed at which the card can operate manually -- ie turn autoneg off). That is a simple ethtool command (put it in /etc/rc.d/rc.local). This may not have anything to do with your card, but I thought I would mention it, as it has caused me (and others) endless frustration both in Windows 2000/XP and in Linux (it seems to be a card-specific thing). It is also possible that the correct module is not loaded.

Sound has changed a lot since 10.1 (the 2.6 kernel, ALSA stuff, etc.). This has to be defined on a more individual basis. I've answered tons of sound card problems and I'm not going to type it all out again; search the forums. That is probably the most frequent question I answer.

As for the scrollwheel, valid point. Luckily it only takes 20 seconds.

1) As stated above, the DVD/floppy thing is a user-error, and it has already been explained.

2) The sarcasm runs thick there. It *is* user error. Everything can be made to work in less than 1 day, IF you know what you are doing. There is a high learning curve to Slackware, and a LOT has changed since 10.1. I can set up a Slackware install to the point of everything working in MUCH less time than it takes to install Windows, Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, ... -- and I'm still very noobish.

3) LiveCDs are generally compiled with as many kernel options enabled so everything will be detected on any system. I would definitely NOT want to run these kernels every day -- they would be beyond slow and would take up a significant portion of RAM. They include a LOT of unnecessary stuff.

You need to create the root user for mysql. You can't just run `/etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld start` without setting it up first.

As for your 'uninstallable' notebook, there are several reasons that the install might not be working. I haven't seen any questions by you on these forums, so you're clearly not interested in actually getting it working -- but instead merely complaining about it.

Why can't you be content that Slackware is 'right' for some people and not for others? Slackware's KISS philosophy creates FEWER problem FOR ME, not more, as you stated. Maybe it causes more problems FOR YOU. And that's fine. However, these choices are why Linux is great -- you don't HAVE to use Slackware. Or you could stick with 10.1 if you really wanted.

[edit]I forgot about the keyboard mapping in the CLI (assuming it doesn't work properly in the CLI as well), which is more difficult to change post-install. See this thread for information on changing your CLI keymap post-install.[/edit]

Last edited by T3slider; 11-20-2008 at 10:38 PM.
 
Old 11-20-2008, 10:05 PM   #43
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The responses to this guy have been exemplary. It shows how unfair people are when they say that Slackware discussion groups are rude to new users.
 
Old 11-20-2008, 10:29 PM   #44
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The responses to this guy have been exemplary. It shows how unfair people are when they say that Slackware discussion groups are rude to new users.
I get your point -- but if he's been using Slackware since 10.1 I don't think he's THAT 'new'. Green maybe, but not new.
 
Old 11-21-2008, 05:31 AM   #45
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You can't use mysqld because you need to run mysql_install_db first.

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