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Old 06-10-2008, 11:20 AM   #31
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哈哈, 谢谢。

Thank you very much Bruce, finally, I got this going. Finally..

Now I can try to see whether I can replace windows with the slackware box...

Thank you

Mark.

By the way, just have to ask another nub question..

For my daily work (writing reports), I normally use CyberArticles to save some useful content of a webpage, or the whole webpage I like, and then edit them later by cut and paste the content to wordprocessor.

So is there any similar software in slackware?

Thanks.
 
Old 06-10-2008, 01:42 PM   #32
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Mark,

I've never heard of CyberAticles, and my Google search wasn't so great.
Can you post a link?

Have you tried to use Open Office 2.4?
 
Old 06-11-2008, 12:16 AM   #33
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Sorry, Bruce,

there was a typo, should be cyber article, and here is the website, http://www.wizissoft.com/, so basically, Cyberarticle is a kind of software for knowledge management, which aims at helping individuals, middle-sized and small enterprises to create and manage their own knowledge databases.

here is my usage of this software, which i purchased. when I see a good webpage (merely contentwise), I will use this software to save it, and then edit the content of the webpage with my opinion or special mark or note added.

And therefore, i am hoping to find a linux-based software to help me do the webpage content management or storage, but my webpage management here is NOT from a programmer pointview, because my job is only to do research, and write reports with the content I derived from those good webpages.

I believe that linux have this kind of software, really sorry for my lack of knowledge.

Thanks

Mark.
 
Old 06-11-2008, 04:03 AM   #34
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Mark,

I don't know either. Try The table of equivalents / replacements / analogs of Windows software in Linux
 
Old 06-11-2008, 11:01 AM   #35
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Bruce, thank you very much for working me through this long. really appreciated.

Mark
 
Old 06-11-2008, 05:27 PM   #36
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Wine may be your answer

Have you tried to run this software under Wine? Wine is an Open Source
implementation of the Windows API on top of X and Unix.

Get Alien Bob's package, install it using "installpkg" as root, and then run
"winecfg" from a terminal (konsole) in your normal users home directory.
This will setup Wine, then you can install your software by first mounting
the CD, then running "wine /path/to/setup.exe" or whatever is appropriate
to install the software.
 
Old 06-12-2008, 12:15 AM   #37
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Thank you again, Bruce, actually, I do have Wine installed on my box.. and I tried to use cyberarticle under wine, it worked, but just not fully-worked.. that is ok, and I can find other software in linux to somhow work arround this issue..

However, Adobe Indisign will be the ONLY program that prevents me from using slackware all the time,, and I read some thread here, and I think you are also using Adobe Indesign, have you figured it out in Wine?

and I overhear that Adobe Indesign doesn't work well in Wine either. Should I tried to use Adobe Indesign CS instead of Indesign CS2?

By the way, I do have Scribus, but its function and user-friendliness is not as good as Indesign, from my own perspective though...


Thanks again.
 
Old 06-12-2008, 07:05 AM   #38
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I was using Scribus, and even helping contribute, but their philosophy of
desktop publishing and mine are not the same. Therefore, I had to stop
working with Scribus. It is so far from Adobe's type of products that I
won't spend time on it again. They modeled Quark Express. Even that product
natively was not good IMO. I grew up in the printing industry, btw.

I do use InDesign CS2. Prior to today, I have never been able to install it
under Wine. Usually I've opened a terminal and entered "wine /path/to/setup.exe"
and it failed.

However, since HAL/Dbus/Udev seems to screw up the way I've done things in
Slackware for the last 5 years, I decided to try something else. Rather than
working from CLI, as I prefer, I used the Konqueror GUI that the automount
process launches. Just like Windows, I clicked on the Setup.exe icon, and it
installed. There was no KDE Menu item created, which wine should have done.

When I launched it from a terminal with this $PATH and command:
Code:
mingdao@silas:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Adobe/Adobe InDesign CS2$ wine InDesign.exe
it first gave me the Adobe Activation screen. When I chose Remind Me on Next
Launch, the program continued, but eventually failed. This is in my term:
Code:
<snip>
fixme:typelib2:ICreateTypeInfo2_fnSetVarHelpContext (0x61c5870,0,0), stub!
wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x0000c88c at address 0x7d812286 (thread 0009), starting debugger...
Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x0000c88c in 32-bit code (0x7d812286).
Register dump:
 CS:0073 SS:007b DS:007b ES:007b FS:0033 GS:003b
 EIP:7d812286 ESP:0032f9b4 EBP:0032f9dc EFLAGS:00010202(   - 00      - -RI1)
 EAX:00000023 EBX:7d85d9e4 ECX:05718520 EDX:0000c800
 ESI:05718520 EDI:05718520
Stack dump:
0x0032f9b4:  7d863c44 00000100 00000000 00000000
0x0032f9c4:  7d863c40 0032fa0c 05718520 7d85d9e4
0x0032f9d4:  05718520 05718520 0032fa1c 7d8134c1
0x0032f9e4:  00000000 4edb218f 05ff67aa 00000000
0x0032f9f4:  062094e0 0000000c 0000000a 05ff3ea8
0x0032fa04:  0000000e 0032f9ec 7d863c40 7d85d9e4
Backtrace:
=>1 0x7d812286 in oleaut32 (+0x42286) (0x0032f9dc)
  2 0x7d8134c1 in oleaut32 (+0x434c1) (0x0032fa1c)
  3 0x7d814e3b in oleaut32 (+0x44e3b) (0x0032fa5c)
  4 0x4b7c8bfc in support for visual basic.apln (+0x8bfc) (0x7d85c4a0)
  5 0x7d810860 in oleaut32 (+0x40860) (0x7d8164b0)
  6 0xcce85356 (0x57e58955)
  7 0x00000000 (0x00000000)
0x7d812286: movl        0x0(%edx,%eax,4),%edi
Modules:
Module  Address                 Debug info      Name (333 modules)
PE        3d0000-  3f9000       Deferred        aws.rpln
PE        400000-  601000       Deferred        indesign
PE       1b20000- 1b75000       Deferred        sing
PE       54b0000- 56fb000       Deferred        tin
<snip>
Threads:
process  tid      prio (all id:s are in hex)
00000008 (D) C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe InDesign CS2\InDesign.exe
        00000023    0
        00000047    0
        00000046    0
        00000045    0
        0000003b    0
        0000001a    0
        00000017    0
        00000009    0 <==
0000000c
        00000032    0
        0000002f    0
        0000002e    0
        0000002d    0
        00000014    0
        00000013    0
        00000012    0
        0000000e    0
        0000000d    0
0000000f
        00000016    0
        00000015    0
        00000011    0
        00000010    0
00000018
        00000019    0
00000029
        00000035    0
        00000034    0
        00000033    0
        00000030    0
        0000002c    0
        0000002a    0
0000003c
        00000044    0
        0000003d    0
0000001b
        00000022    0
        00000020    0
        0000001f    0
        0000001e    0
        0000001d    0
        0000001c    0
Backtrace:
=>1 0x7d812286 in oleaut32 (+0x42286) (0x0032f9dc)
  2 0x7d8134c1 in oleaut32 (+0x434c1) (0x0032fa1c)
  3 0x7d814e3b in oleaut32 (+0x44e3b) (0x0032fa5c)
  4 0x4b7c8bfc in support for visual basic.apln (+0x8bfc) (0x7d85c4a0)
  5 0x7d810860 in oleaut32 (+0x40860) (0x7d8164b0)
  6 0xcce85356 (0x57e58955)
  7 0x00000000 (0x00000000)
mingdao@silas:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Adobe/Adobe InDesign CS2$
I had to snip a ton of output because it made the post go over the 25,000 character limit.
Not only that, but I could not go back in Konsole as far as the output of all those stubs. I'm
no programmer, so I haven't a clue what all that means.

The other app that keeps a Mickey$oft Windows eXPeriment OS on my drive is Photoshop.
GIMP is not in the same league. For a basic home user, GIMP does a lot of things and
quite well. But my needs surpass GIMP's capabilities. Such as CMYK, to name one thing.

Maybe I'll try to install Photoshop 7.0 in Wine. I'm no masochist, and if I must
use Windoze for InDesign, I might as well use Photoshop natively.
 
Old 06-12-2008, 10:13 AM   #39
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Thanks Bruce, maybe later on, someone may find a cure for indesgin cs2 in wine, and I read a thread that someone on Gentoo got it barely running.

Ok, now, i will start to really experience slackware, though I have to go back to windows occasionally for adobe indesign.

Thanks again, Bruce.

Mark
 
Old 06-12-2008, 10:17 AM   #40
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不客气!

Can you post a link to the Gentoo thread?
 
Old 06-13-2008, 12:33 AM   #41
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It is not a thread with instruction of how to get it done, anyway, here it is.

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...estingId=22123

please pay attention to the right bottom area of the page.

Thanks.

Mark.
 
Old 06-14-2008, 11:39 AM   #42
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I had found that thread on the Wine website after I posted to you.

That was what I needed to get InDesign CD2 installed in Wine. It
does still have issues, but might work somewhat. Haven't had the
time to really use it much.

You might also want to consider installing Windows in VMware Player
or some such thing in Linux. Haven't tried myself, but many people
say it's great.
 
Old 06-15-2008, 03:20 AM   #43
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Bruce, thanks for the post,,, dude,, to install windows xp under Linux is something too scary for me now, since I just barely got my slackware box running..

May try it in the future, I remember that one thread said that to run windows under linux gives you the freedom of no virus, and malicious software, and some windoz user friendliness.

Thanks.
 
Old 06-15-2008, 03:41 AM   #44
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Mark,

Not to worry. There is nothing wrong with dual booting.

When Adobe ports InDesign and Photoshop to Linux, I can
successfully "rm -rf /WinXP". But until then, I need it.

My wife and daughter's computer can now play our daughter's
learning CDs in Slackware with Wine better than in Windows.
So when I get some time, I'll "rm -rf /Windows" and repartition
their drive so it's Slackware only.
 
Old 06-15-2008, 09:42 AM   #45
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Bruce,

I have dual boot for my system, as I will be needing Indesign for my work. I don't use Photoshop that much, so gimp will be just enough for me. so Indesign is the last program i have to get before windoz-free.

However, What do you mean by "rm -rf /winXP"? sorry for the ignorance.

Anyway,, when you got time to figure out this Indesign thing, please do let me know, if that is ok.

Thanks.

Mark
 
  


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