How to start the GUI

volkerdi · 05-23-2014, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fixit7

You are quite wrong.

It needed external drivers which were not available.

Try again.

Andy

OK, I'll take a shot at it. What were the missing drivers?

If they are available to redistribute and we don't include them, I'd like to know. However, I suspect there's at least an open source driver that works with the hardware or you'd see the same issue with other Linux distributions as well.

If the driver is not free to redistribute, you can hardly blame us for that.

Richard Cranium · 05-23-2014, 08:30 PM

Oh, but he will.

Fixit7 · 05-23-2014, 10:13 PM

I hope you have a better tomorrow.

Fixit7 · 05-23-2014, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by volkerdi

OK, I'll take a shot at it. What were the missing drivers?

If they are available to redistribute and we don't include them, I'd like to know. However, I suspect there's at least an open source driver that works with the hardware or you'd see the same issue with other Linux distributions as well.

If the driver is not free to redistribute, you can hardly blame us for that.

volkerdi,

I appreciate your input.

It looks like you want to improve things.

I will get back with you with my wifi card info.

Intel WiFi Link 5100 AGN

Andy

frankiej · 05-24-2014, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fixit7

Intel WiFi Link 5100 AGN
Andy

That works out of the box in Slackware and should work in every distribution that doesn't exclude the kernel-firmware code.

I have that in my laptop.

Code:

02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation WiFi Link 5100
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation WiFi Link 5100 AGN
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 49
        Memory at f4100000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
        Capabilities: [c8] Power Management version 3
        Capabilities: [d0] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
        Capabilities: [e0] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
        Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
        Capabilities: [140] Device Serial Number 00-1e-65-ff-ff-ec-58-e2
        Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi
        Kernel modules: iwlwifi

dugan · 05-24-2014, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Fixit7

Intel WiFi Link 5100 AGN

Assuming you installed 14.1, that should be supported out of the box. No extra software is needed or even available.

Are you sure the problem isn't that you didn't enable networkmanager? See ryanmcquen's post for how to enable it. Reboot afterwards, start Xfce or KDE, and you should have a working wifi applet in the system tray. Or, I guess, do that when you decide to give Slackware another try.

Quote:

I hope you have a better tomorrow.

*grins like Chow Yun Fat

Don't worry, I don't have two handguns to pull out.

Fixit7 · 05-24-2014, 02:34 AM

I will download Slackware and give it another try.

I prefer KDE.

Is there a way to make screen saves during installation ?

That would greatly help with clarifying my posts.

Andy

dugan · 05-24-2014, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fixit7

I will download Slackware and give it another try.

I prefer KDE.

Is there a way to make screen saves during installation ?

That would greatly help with clarifying my posts.

Andy

I think the only way is to just use a digital camera or cellphone to take a picture of the screen.

Fixit7 · 05-24-2014, 03:07 AM

Same situation with Windows XP.

Andy

eloi · 05-24-2014, 05:01 AM

Andy,

You're experiencing the typical symptoms of migrating from Windows. In a first stage you may think that distributions, interfaces and software in general that try to make the migration easier emulating Windows are better, and in front of those that don't you'll complain in forums thinking it's a bug. Well that's just a wrong first impression. I was trying along the years to advice that that developers mistake in the end would hurt the evolution of Linux. And I was right, today we all suffer the consequences of the lindowisation. Curiously, a lot of linux developers, maintainers and users that today complain about that consequences stay in that mistake of advocating the "out of the box" experience ala Windows (and they call my sincere advice trolling).

The true is that to enjoy and value a unix like OS you must first get the out of the box experience out of your system. By system I mean you :-). Because freedom has sense when YOU choose and decide what to automate.

In practice, if you're not really disposed or you have not enough time to learn how to configure i.e. your network by hand, I mean reading documentation and editing text files, my advice is don't fool yourself, MS Windows is the better option for you.

Walter

cynwulf · 05-24-2014, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fixit7

Intel WiFi Link 5100 AGN

This device is supported "out of the box" by iwlwifi driver...

https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Intel_WiFi...bgn,_full_size)
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi

Code:

$ grep -i iwlwifi config-*-3.10.17
config-generic-3.10.17:CONFIG_IWLWIFI=m
config-generic-3.10.17:CONFIG_IWLWIFI_OPMODE_MODULAR=y
config-generic-3.10.17:# CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEBUG is not set
config-generic-3.10.17:# CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEVICE_TRACING is not set
config-generic-3.10.17:# CONFIG_IWLWIFI_P2P is not set
config-huge-3.10.17:CONFIG_IWLWIFI=m
config-huge-3.10.17:CONFIG_IWLWIFI_OPMODE_MODULAR=y
config-huge-3.10.17:# CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEBUG is not set
config-huge-3.10.17:# CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEVICE_TRACING is not set
config-huge-3.10.17:# CONFIG_IWLWIFI_P2P is not set

It's a clear case of PEBKAC

1337_powerslacker · 05-24-2014, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cynwulf

It's a clear case of PEBKAC

I had to look PEBKAC up since I hadn't seen it before, and I LMAO! So true! I must note, however, that PEBKAC exists everywhere, even (dare I say especially?) among experienced users. We accumulate so much knowledge that we forget the basics on occasion. (I include myself in that equation).

Philip Lacroix · 05-24-2014, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fixit7

I think you missed this part of my post.

Sorry, it wasn't intentional: I didn't notice that you had commented again while I was writing my post. Anyway, it seems that your device is supported, so yours is probably a mere configuration issue. Regarding the lack of automated configuration tools in Slackware, that's exactly how the distribution is intended to be: simple, transparent, and stable. It might have a steeper learning curve than other distros, and will require some documentation effort, but it's definitely worth trying, and then you'll appreciate the advantages. But I suggest again that you read some stuff, and then you'll understand why Slackware is the way it is, and you will be able to make a conscious choice. Which, of course, is entirely up to you.

Habitual · 05-24-2014, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fixit7

Slackware could not get my wireless network going.

Slackware is a "hands-on" OS. Once you get your wireless working, it may very well be your last OS.

This may help:
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi

zrdc28 · 05-25-2014, 12:12 AM

(1) After login if you will type in startx that will give you a gui. log in this way for a while in case of problems it makes it easy to fix.

(2) This command will give you a wireless connection.
chmod +x /etc/rc.d/NetworkManager

The reason it is not executable is that there are several different network managers and ways to connect in Slackware.

(3) look in the panel and click on the icon, find your AP and put in the key/password and surf.

You will find this is one of the best forums and group of people on any linux group if you will be patient.