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Old 09-15-2007, 01:15 PM   #76
Alien Bob
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Originally Posted by perry View Post
These things happen and it's the #1 reason why you now have a RescueCD. It was just a simple matter of rebooting off the RescueCD and then doing a man lilo to figure out how to set the lilo back. Turns out that by using chroot you can set any partition (containing /dev/) as root. So this is how the Slackware installation cd does it during your install. (My root partition is /mnt/hda3)
Code:
chroot /mnt/hda3
cd /etc
lilo
reboot
Doing this from inside a terminal window thanks to the fantastic work they did at VectorLinux (a distribution based on Slackware) and wella! Back in business!
How many f***ing times must I reply to posts like these - this is a Slackware forum. Everything you describe can be done with the help of the Slackware boot CD/DVD.
There is absolutely no need to point people to a non-Slackware product (and no, a derivative distro is not a 'Slackware' product) and download/burn an ISO image when the tools you need are available on the very CD/DVD you (hopefully) bought from the Slackware Store.

Eric
 
Old 09-15-2007, 05:32 PM   #77
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Why do you need another CD. What's wrong with Slack CD1.

Cheers.
 
Old 09-16-2007, 11:21 AM   #78
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Why do you need another CD. What's wrong with Slack CD1.

Cheers.
Slackware CD1 is intended for installation, doesn't come with all the extras that "the other" cd has. It makes repairing a Slackware installation much easier, less error prone.

You have to remember, not everyone knows the tiny details of every Unix/Linux command instruction and not everyone has the patience to wade thru mountains of documentation. We are not all cut from the same block. The whole point of LQ.org is to make life easier for those of us that want a positive Unix on a PC experience...

- Perry

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Old 09-17-2007, 12:04 PM   #79
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Google.ca - "how to install slackware 12" and see what happens!

Open Source / Open World
I think you know you've made it in the world of open source when you enter a text string into google on "related" work that you did but your stuff comes up on google.com!

- me

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Old 09-17-2007, 03:08 PM   #80
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Please perry - this is the LQ Slackware forum, not a place to read sorry stories about lives that take a wrong turn. If you want to make known to the world how you start your day, please open a site at LQ Blogs and inform us from there.

To me, the incorrect information and irrelevant personal diary entries greatly outweigh the pieces of useful information in your posts. The majority of your posts here really belong in a personal blog, not on a public help forum.

Now if you really mean to help people in this forum, please try to answer to the questions asked here instead of breaking your own system over and over again, and subsequently posting your home-brew solution. Much of what you break originates from not fully understanding your Slackware system, and the fixes you come up with are incomplete due to the same lack of understanding. Worse, they tell the wrong story to other people who are new to Slackware Linux.

What you should cater to are the pieces where you write about the stuff where you actually make the system better than the default - that is what people find useful.

As for your continued pushing of Vector Linux on a Slackware forum, I find this kind of inappropriate. There is a Vector Linux forum on LQ where you can talk about your adventures with that distro.

Please don't read this a way to drive you away. Rather, I'd like you to stick to the purpose of this forum and use the other resources of the LQ site the way they are meant for.

Eric
 
Old 09-17-2007, 04:58 PM   #81
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Hi,

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Slackware CD1 is intended for installation, doesn't come with all the extras that "the other" cd has. It makes repairing a Slackware installation much easier, less error prone.
That is from your view point! The Slackware Install cd1 is a bootable cd that can be used to maintain a Slackware install and that was the original intent to be used as a install cd with a means to maintain the same installation. Sure you may not have the 'GUI' that you seem to need. This is Slackware and the tools necessary are available to the type of user that you describe. KISS! Has always been the Slackware way to 'Keep It Simple Stupid'. And that is not to be taken as slander but a means to say that things don't always require you to have a layer between you and the OS to be easy.

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You have to remember, not everyone knows the tiny details of every Unix/Linux command instruction and not everyone has the patience to wade thru mountains of documentation. We are not all cut from the same block. The whole point of LQ.org is to make life easier for those of us that want a positive Unix on a PC experience...
As for this statement. My views are that is why most people come to Slackware. Too learn and not have their hand held by the Distro. Documentations is the information to allow the user to master the OS. You will learn the tiny details if you read the documentation patiently. Yes, you will need patience, diligence and a strong desire to achieve the mastery of anything be it a Distro/OS, horse training or child rearing. The latter two are the two that I'm still working on diligently. The OS is always a work in progress for me.

Your last statement about LQ is somewhat correct.

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LinuxQuestions.org - where Linux users come for help
The above is on the home page as the salutation. So if that is what you are trying to say then albeit. I think the help portion is that meaning. Not necessarily holding the hand but giving instructions for the user to understand how to correct his/her situation. This can be directing someone to the documentation or even just a command and the reasoning behind such an operation. As for the making of life easier then I guess each of us do it here on the LQ Slackware forum via different models yet attempt to adhere to the LQ rules.

Last edited by onebuck; 09-17-2007 at 05:01 PM. Reason: grammar, spelling
 
Old 09-18-2007, 03:10 AM   #82
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cheers to Alien Bob!

(but wait, maybe the cheers belong on a blog!! )

seriously but, perry you tried to start off well , but then the whole thing just degenerated...
 
Old 09-19-2007, 10:33 AM   #83
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What are you talking about?

I love Slackware, I'm almost nutz about it...! And my way of doing things either work or they don't and are almost always fun to execute. I am a straight shooter and don't like sending people down a garden path. Moreover, this is life on the cutting-edge or bleeding-edge of technology. If Linus Torvalds listened to his detractors we would not have Linux today!

I agree that there is a time and place for everything, perhaps I'll make a forwarding reference to the Vector Linux forum for the RescueCD.

I learned how to program computers after spending all my summer's wages on a Commodore Vic 20 and a small black and white t.v. set. That's really all I had back in September of 1982 (or was it 83). All I had was a users guide and something about "peek & poke". No formal introduction for yours truly. At 15 years of age I began my quest into the wonderful world of information technology. Skills I learned are largely self taught. Moreover, in much later years, people coming at me from a "learned" background have always given me only a 50/50 rating on my workmanship even though my resume speaks volumes of one project after another in the computer science and engineering community.

I think there are "generations" of computer users. That is, each batch of i.t. people you see today have various backgrounds and have a tendency to think alike. I come from the 1982-83 batch. You might be later, you might be earlier. But depending on your year and environment, thus this is your experience. Now comparing one persons experience to another, sounds like an important thing or constructive thing to do, but it's not mandatory and can sometimes be destructive. Even though it's meant to be constructive.

Moreover, I didn't know there was a "LQ Blogs", thanks for the heads up!

And for the record, I'm not apologizing for an emotion... you kin forgit it!

Have a nice day!

- Perry


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Old 09-20-2007, 02:52 PM   #84
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This post seems to be on a downward spiral. I'm going to go ahead and close it. Please don't start a thread to respond to anything in this one. If there is something constructive, something that can be added to help someone work through a problem, feel free to work on that thread with them.

Also, please keep the threads on topic. Perry, if you are going to help out in the Slackware forum (which is appreciated) please keep the topic on Slackware. If you want to discuss VectorLinux, please take the discussion to the Vector forum.

-Chad

Last edited by MasterC; 09-20-2007 at 02:55 PM.
 
  


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