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Old 06-02-2011, 03:50 AM   #46
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The long term issue is drivers and support. ATI is known to stop updating their linux drivers after 1-2 years. I have an ATI card sitting in my drawer due to this.

What it means for me : I can't install the latest slackware or xorg. This has greater significance than 3d performance or games. Unless they pull up their socks on this issue, I won't use their hardware anymore. Use Nvidia for linux, it's headache-free!
This is precisely my experience with ATI.

To the OP: you might still be able to get your card going at this point in time.
 
Old 06-02-2011, 02:11 PM   #47
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The long term issue is drivers and support. ATI is known to stop updating their linux drivers after 1-2 years. I have an ATI card sitting in my drawer due to this.
Just a minor rebuttal to your post... AMD/ATi are still releasing drivers for cards that came out 5 years ago i.e hd2000 series...
 
Old 06-02-2011, 02:23 PM   #48
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In my opinion, if you want good user experience from Linux, you use everything Intel, it just work and do so well and you spend your time working with your computer rather than finding white hair in your head. But as for Ati stuff, there is my struggle with HD4850 You will find some ups and downs for both catalyst and open source drivers (from my point of view). But if you want power graphics i suggest you buy Nvidia (you will have VDPAU too, not only hassle free driver).

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Old 06-02-2011, 07:46 PM   #49
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No problems with that for at least the last year with my HD3200.
Last year? Catalyst 11.5 comes at may 2011...My friend has laptop with Radeon 4xxx and he has the same problem on KDE.
 
Old 06-02-2011, 07:51 PM   #50
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With the last year I meant all versions of the driver that were released in the last year, with every one of them I was able to look Flash videos in fullscreen without any problems.

When you have problems with that, may it be that you have desktop effects enabled and that this is rather an incompatibility between the WM and the Flashplayer than a driver error?
 
Old 06-02-2011, 08:29 PM   #51
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With the last year I meant all versions of the driver that were released in the last year, with every one of them I was able to look Flash videos in fullscreen without any problems.

When you have problems with that, may it be that you have desktop effects enabled and that this is rather an incompatibility between the WM and the Flashplayer than a driver error?
I do not use desktop effect, i have it switched off (AMD 760G - Radeon HD3000, it is within 760G chipset). This is driver erroc cause the same thing happens with xbmc. I did not have it with 11.3.
 
Old 06-02-2011, 08:39 PM   #52
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Of course YMMV. I just find it rather strange that there is a driver error with your HD3000, your friends HD4XXX, but not my HD3200. But who knows what is going on there.
 
Old 06-02-2011, 10:30 PM   #53
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My ATI HD4670 works great under Slackware 13.37 with the open-source radeon driver.

There were quite a number of bug fixes from the previous radeon driver in Slackware 13.1.
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Old 06-03-2011, 04:04 AM   #54
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Just an update since this thread has come back to life.

I ended up buying an older desktop from a friend that had Nvidia graphics instead (Geforce 6150LE).

There were some annoyances with the proprietary Nvidia driver, but all is working well with the nouveau driver + 38.4 kernel in Slackware64 13.37

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Old 06-03-2011, 03:24 PM   #55
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Thumbs down ATI support

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Just a minor rebuttal to your post... AMD/ATi are still releasing drivers for cards that came out 5 years ago i.e hd2000 series...
my last company laptop was considered end-of-life by ATI after two years. Hell, nvidia still updates the drivers for all of their hardware since the Riva TNT cards. That's all hardware from up to 13 years ago. with every new kernel release.
 
Old 06-03-2011, 03:44 PM   #56
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my last company laptop was considered end-of-life by ATI after two years. Hell, nvidia still updates the drivers for all of their hardware since the Riva TNT cards. That's all hardware from up to 13 years ago. with every new kernel release.
The 96.xx drivers (and older) will not run on a recent Xserver, so anything older than the FX5 series will not work anymore.
 
Old 06-03-2011, 04:08 PM   #57
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And, to be fair, AMD also pays developers (both on-staff and outside of AMD) to work on the open source radeon driver, which supports every radeon GPU. As compared to nvidia who not only have not released updated drivers for older cards on newer X servers and announced they were going to stop supporting the only open source drivers they ever supported for their cards.
 
Old 06-03-2011, 04:28 PM   #58
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And, to be fair, AMD also pays developers (both on-staff and outside of AMD) to work on the open source radeon driver, which supports every radeon GPU. As compared to nvidia who not only have not released updated drivers for older cards on newer X servers and announced they were going to stop supporting the only open source drivers they ever supported for their cards.

Well, but those open drivers for AMD are very...slow. Have you tried running KDE with desktop effect on open and Catalyst? Very good example of this is glxgears:

-open: 51 FPS (desktop with effect tuner on works very slow)
-CAT: 170 FPS (don't need to mention...how it works)

depending on drivers, desktop can work differently, also web browser with flash player and so on.

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Old 06-03-2011, 04:31 PM   #59
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The open source drivers have always performed much better at compositing than catalyst. And, frankly, since I don't sit around and watch gears spin all day, those numbers are meaningless.

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Old 06-03-2011, 06:09 PM   #60
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96.43.19

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The 96.xx drivers (and older) will not run on a recent Xserver, so anything older than the FX5 series will not work anymore.
what d'you mean by "recent X server"? I have Slackware 13.37 running with 96.43.19 on two machines. With AIGLX and full KDE desktop effects (although the machines are memory and disk bound, so I prefer XFCE these days).
 
  


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