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the-yikes 01-23-2007 07:32 AM

Help ME!!!
 
Hi, okay i'm about to ask a question that to be honest i'm expecting to get slated for asking but what the heck! i have a 4 year old son who i'm trying to get interested in slackware. I've built him his own slackware box for drawing and playing games on, it's not connected to the net or any network.
My question is this is it possible for me to disable the default login screen and get it to boot staright into X?

Dont's shoot me cause i'm dumb shoot me cause i'm special!

terrio 01-23-2007 07:46 AM

etc/inittab
 
I am pretty sure this has been posted a million times before but what the heck. In order to have Slackware boot by default into X, you have to change the default run level of the OS. Currently, out of the box Slack is set to runlevel 3, or init 3. For Slack to boot directly into X you have to set the default run level to runlevel 4, init 4. To do this, open /etc/inittab and change the default from 3 to 4. The lines should look like this.

Currently:

# Default runlevel. (Do not set to 0 or 6)
id:3:initdefault:

Change to:

# Default runlevel. (Do not set to 0 or 6)
id:4:initdefault:

Also, check out this link for more information on run levels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Init

Old_Fogie 01-23-2007 07:50 AM

@the-yikes

In addition to terrio's advice, you can as the "root" account go into the KDE Control Center, under "System Administration" then "login manager" and then click on the "convenience tab" and set KDE to autologin your son too.

terrio 01-23-2007 08:04 AM

Great addition Old_Fogie, this might be more of what he is looking for.

Cheers

Broder 01-23-2007 09:07 AM

Good job. Not sure I'd know alot of four years olds or their parents that would be familiar with linux!

the-yikes 01-23-2007 01:25 PM

You ppl ROCK totally!
 
Firstly i wanna say that the spped at which all of responded just blew me away!
thank you all so much it was kind of bugging me, as things do!
Thank you Feelda, Terio and last but definately by no means least Old_Fogie!
your amazing!

p.s i wanted him to get used to using a real operating system as young as possible, that way by the time the poor thing is exposed to W!n!o$e he should be top of his game!

i dont know how things are where all of you come from but linux is never taught let alone mentioned in Irish schools! tut tut tut.

Thank you all again....Oh yeah it works!! hahahaha

Home: Slackware 11
Work: Slackware 11 I made converts out of them
Registered Linux User #440276

H_TeXMeX_H 01-23-2007 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the-yikes
i dont know how things are where all of you come from but linux is never taught let alone mentioned in Irish schools! tut tut tut.

Yeah, that's how it is here, and AFAIK how it is everywhere. Oh well :(

What's even worse, IMO, is the QWERTY keyboard layout ... it's for typewriters, people !!! ... do you own a typewriter or a computer ? Of course, it will probably never change, a permanent relic of the olden days. (I use dvorak ... it's actually designed for touch-typing as opposed to slowing you down and making your hands hurt like QWERTY)

EDIT: Also, don't title a thread 'HELP ME !!!', etc. Obviously you're here because you need help. A title like that doesn't really say much about the problem and imagine if everyone did that ... (this is just a friendly suggestion, and this is to your advantage)

Old_Fogie 01-24-2007 04:03 AM

@the-yikes: I'm very glad that I was able to help, especially as this was for a good cause :D

I like the idea of a 4 year old slacker. Be sure to check out Potato Guy, the kids really like that one. We were able to save them as png's here for the grandkids, and then add some text and what not and put them on the 'fridge'. It's a good app, helps them with the hand eye coordination too. I'm sure the family will chuckle at some of the pictures your son makes :D

@H_TeXMeX_H: "the QWERTY" hahah I hear that. Here's a funny one for you guys & gals. I loaded up slackware for a friend. Made it dual boot, and left the lilo to wait for ever to choose the OS to boot into. I got a phone call a few days later, saying "where is the CR key". Hahaha, the lilo boot loaded splash screens asks us to hit "carriage return"!

That's a true story ! It's almost as good as the blonde girl joke where the blonde-girl was fired from her job for putting white-out on the screen :D

Cheers All.

Broder 01-24-2007 08:29 AM

Quote:

I've built him his own slackware box for drawing and playing games on
What software are you using? Just curius what the kids are into these days :)

the-yikes 01-24-2007 12:45 PM

Bring Linux to all generation's
 
Hi all and again thank you for you support and the tip on not titleing my questions as "HELP MEE!!" generally speaking i wouldnt do such a thing but i was in a blind state of panic and had limited time online as the tlelecom crew were shutting down the lines in my area for service work.

Well any on to the point based on the reaction i got from the statement i made about linux not being taught in schools i went to my local secondry school and spoke to the head master about the prospect of teaching a few lessons in linux (not that i'm an expert) but he seemed delighted and to show him what it was all about i brought a live cd and ran it on his pc! he was amazed, and for the first time their actually opening a computer club after school hours to help educate those willing to be taught!.

My first point will be to express to them how supportive and kind the linux community are.

Thank you all again.

The Yikes

Registered Linux User #440276

XavierP 01-24-2007 12:58 PM

Fantastic news! Just goes to show - if you don't ask, you don't get. Just remember, if you or they get stuck, we're here to help.

Good luck.

onebuck 01-24-2007 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the-yikes
Hi all and again thank you for you support and the tip on not titleing my questions as "HELP MEE!!" generally speaking i wouldnt do such a thing but i was in a blind state of panic and had limited time online as the tlelecom crew were shutting down the lines in my area for service work.

Well any on to the point based on the reaction i got from the statement i made about linux not being taught in schools i went to my local secondry school and spoke to the head master about the prospect of teaching a few lessons in linux (not that i'm an expert) but he seemed delighted and to show him what it was all about i brought a live cd and ran it on his pc! he was amazed, and for the first time their actually opening a computer club after school hours to help educate those willing to be taught!.

My first point will be to express to them how supportive and kind the linux community are.

Thank you all again.

The Yikes

Registered Linux User #440276


Hi,

You could do a search to see if there is a LUG (Linux User group) in your area. I'm sure they would love to assist. Some have special sessions for newbies. Our local LUGs' have different flavors of distro that the users favor.

BTW, welcome to LQ and Slackware!

H_TeXMeX_H 01-24-2007 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwsandvik
You could do a search to see if there is a LUG (Linux User group) in your area. I'm sure they would love to assist. Some have special sessions for newbies. Our local LUGs' have different flavors of distro that the users favor.

For a second I thought I was dreaming. I've never heard of nor seen an LUG, I don't even know that they exist. And they help newbies ? And they're even distro specific ?

What planet is this on ? It's difficult for me to imagine these kind of things existing here. Still, I dunno, maybe they do exist and I just don't see them ?

Maybe I should start one. The one membered LUG ... I'm the only member. And, as with other groups I've tried to start ... it stays that way.

Broder 01-25-2007 03:53 AM

Quote:

I went to my local secondry school and spoke to the head master about the prospect of teaching a few lessons in linux (not that i'm an expert) but he seemed delighted and to show him what it was all about i brought a live cd and ran it on his pc! he was amazed, and for the first time their actually opening a computer club after school hours to help educate those willing to be taught!.
We should all take a leaf from that book.

onebuck 01-25-2007 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H
For a second I thought I was dreaming. I've never heard of nor seen an LUG, I don't even know that they exist. And they help newbies ? And they're even distro specific ?

What planet is this on ? It's difficult for me to imagine these kind of things existing here. Still, I dunno, maybe they do exist and I just don't see them ?

Maybe I should start one. The one membered LUG ... I'm the only member. And, as with other groups I've tried to start ... it stays that way.

Hi,

Just to help you start that LUG. For the OP.

the-yikes 01-25-2007 12:06 PM

Endless library of knowledge!
 
Oh can i start by saying that, i am amazed by you people!!! in a good way that is, is their anything you dont know? i mean to an extent i can understand why you so interested....linux seems to be a calling more then a hobbie! well it's that way for me anyway!

Feelda thank you so much for the links to the irish linux communities, though somewhat breif they appear to be a great place to begin, thank you so so very much.

Xavier, gwsandvik, Old_Fogie, H_TeXMeX_H, terrio and once again Feelda thank you all i love knowing that people like you exist it makes things a whole lot more enjoyable!


Thanks!

The Yikes

H_TeXMeX_H 01-25-2007 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwsandvik
Hi,

Just to help you start that LUG. For the OP.

Thanks for the link. There actually is a LUG in this area ...

It seems that I didn't know about it because it is ... all but dead and/or stale. I wonder if it's possible to revive it. Maybe I'll look into it when I have some time.

@the-yikes
You are very welcome. I too am glad that such a place as this exists (and has enough members to answer most questions in due time ... a number of other Linux help forums have problems cuz they have few members, so answers come too late or never (I've seen so many such posts when googling)) Really, I'm mostly here to learn how to troubleshoot, and maybe I can help with it too, when I know what I'm talking about :)

onebuck 01-25-2007 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the-yikes
Oh can i start by saying that, i am amazed by you people!!! in a good way that is, is their anything you dont know? i mean to an extent i can understand why you so interested....linux seems to be a calling more then a hobbie! well it's that way for me anyway!
<snip>

Thanks!

The Yikes

Hi,

As I said before 'Welcome to LQ', We have great resource here.

Your welcome!

onebuck 01-25-2007 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H
Thanks for the link. There actually is a LUG in this area ...

It seems that I didn't know about it because it is ... all but dead and/or stale. I wonder if it's possible to revive it. Maybe I'll look into it when I have some time.

@the-yikes
You are very welcome. I too am glad that such a place as this exists (and has enough members to answer most questions in due time ... a number of other Linux help forums have problems cuz they have few members, so answers come too late or never (I've seen so many such posts when googling)) Really, I'm mostly here to learn how to troubleshoot, and maybe I can help with it too, when I know what I'm talking about :)

Hi,

Your welcome!
The LUG is only as strong as the members.

I agree a lot of the other forums seem to have problems with personalities and a good knowledge base. A good way to learn trouble shooting is just what you are doing. Get your techniques down and use them. I wish that Google, LQ and the web in general was available when I started.

Don't be afraid to experiment and even admit when you make a mistake or just stumble. We all make them, sometimes the mistake will lead you into a hornets nest. Just use that nest to find out more. Dig, dig and polish. Don't give up. Too many people give up on a problem and want to use the easy way out(ie; re-install an OS). Sure you might have too re-install but find out why.

Use the tools available to you. Sometimes you will have to reach out and find alternate ways to fix the problem. I'm a firm believer in fixing the problem not patching it. Sometimes I have to walk away to get the answer, meaning that by persisting with the problem the solution just becomes elusive. By giving myself some away time the solution or direction to the answer will come to me.

BTW, I keep system logs and machine logs, that way I can always trace back to get the answer.

H_TeXMeX_H 01-25-2007 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwsandvik
Dig, dig and polish. Don't give up. Too many people give up on a problem and want to use the easy way out(ie; re-install an OS). Sure you might have too re-install but find out why.

I definitely agree. In fact, I wouldn't be here if hadn't stuck with it. I had to reinstall my first distro at least 20 times before I got it to work (cuz I didn't know what I was doing and the documentation was only slightly useful). Not to mention that I tried many many many distros before that, but for some reason they all failed (mostly because my CD/DVD burner is really messed up ... it burns correctly only when it feels like it ... perhaps it is possessed ?)

Anyway, it certainly wasn't easy. Nothing ever is. But I didn't give up, I knew there had to be an answer. And so far with Linux, there has always been an answer to every problem, you just need to try hard enough to fix it / find a solution. I think that might be the key aspect ... if you have enough interest and motivation, you can fix anything, you can do anything ... you can succeed.


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