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amenos42 06-06-2013 11:20 PM

Help: installing Slackware without CD or USB
 
[friendlygreeting]
First of all, hello and may I say what a nice forum you have here. Given how difficult learning Linux has been, it seems like I'll be hanging out here a lot. I decided to start with Slackware because I want to really understand the system... or because I'm a masochist.
[/friendlygreeting]

Anyway, I got a Panasonic CF-29 toughbook, which ships with windows XP and I honestly have no idea how to install slackware because there's no CD drive and the BIOS doesn't have an option to boot from USB. The additional complication is that every other system I own runs Windows. I've figured out that I have to make a boot and install disk (though I'm not really sure how to make them or what to do with them once I have them).

So the immediate question for me is "Which image file do I put on the boot disk?"

hitest 06-06-2013 11:43 PM

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rkelsen 06-07-2013 12:11 AM

The last version of Slackware which had floppy images was 11.0. Fortunately, you can still download it. It is on many of the mirror sites.

Perhaps you can use the floppy images from 11.0 to 'bootstrap' an installation of a later version from the Windows partition?

amenos42 06-07-2013 12:20 AM

Could I use a couple floppies to do a basic install, then download the rest from the internet?

EDIT: a network boot would be cool, but I'd need another working Linux system to set up the server, unfortunately.

flank'er 06-07-2013 12:33 AM

The plan:

1) You must to disassemble the laptop,
2) extract the hard drive,
3) connect the hard drive to another computer
4) install on it Slackware
5) return the drive to a laptop
6) collect the notebook


look to youtube "disassemble cf-29"

TracyTiger 06-07-2013 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amenos42 (Post 4966975)
Given how difficult learning Linux has been ...

... there's no CD drive and the BIOS doesn't have an option to boot from USB.

To learn Slackware (or any other Linux distribution), I would recommend learning the basics first and obtain a simple surplus computer with a CD/DVD drive. Many more members of this forum would be able to help you if your computer was similar to the computers used by the forum members.

(I've been entertaining myself by imagining what hitest wrote and then decided to delete. :) )

allend 06-07-2013 03:35 AM

My approach would be to do a network install. Details are in README_PXE.TXT in the usb-and-pxe-installers directory of your favourite Slackware mirror.

If your laptop does not have PXE boot support in the NIC ROM then you could try a gPXE boot floppy. http://etherboot.org/wiki/removable

You will need a PXE server on a Windows machine. e.g. http://superuser.com/questions/57013...xe-boot-server.

With the specs of that laptop, I would suggest using something apart from the default KDE GUI desktop. KDE would be slooowww!

I would consider this as challenging, but doable.

SavoTU 06-07-2013 05:05 AM

I would either download the boot floppy from Slackware 11 and go from there or follow this to get a floppy which will then allow you to boot from usb.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16822...-wont-let-you/

rkelsen 06-07-2013 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SavoTU (Post 4967086)
I would either download the boot floppy from Slackware 11 and go from there or follow this to get a floppy which will then allow you to boot from usb.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16822...-wont-let-you/

Brilliant!

Alien Bob 06-07-2013 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amenos42 (Post 4966989)
Could I use a couple floppies to do a basic install, then download the rest from the internet?

EDIT: a network boot would be cool, but I'd need another working Linux system to set up the server, unfortunately.

Hi

You do not need another Linux computer for a Slackware PXE installation.

If you have another computer and it has a DVD drive, or else it is able to boot from USB, then you can boot the Slackware installer on THAT computer.

If you run "pxesetup" instead of "setup" at the installation prompt, then the installer will ask a few simple questions and then start a PXE server on that computer which will let you install Slackware over the network on that DVD-less computer of yours. Try it, it's really simple.

See http://docs.slackware.com/slackware:pxe_install for all the information and screenshots (originally written as http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/out-...ackware-13-37/).

Eric

kikinovak 06-07-2013 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amenos42 (Post 4966975)
[friendlygreeting]Anyway, I got a Panasonic CF-29 toughbook, which ships with windows XP and I honestly have no idea how to install slackware because there's no CD drive and the BIOS doesn't have an option to boot from USB.

This is strange. I have a Panasonic CF-T4 Toughbook with even lower specs than yours (Pentium M, 512 MB RAM, 40 GB disk), and I installed Slackware 14.0 on it using a USB disk. What you can try:
  1. Insert the USB boot disk
  2. Start the PC and enter the BIOS
  3. Enable the inserted disk to boot
  4. Save BIOS settings and boot on USB

If you don't know how to create a bootable USB disk, here's a mini-HOWTO:

http://www.microlinux.fr/howtos/USB-Install-HOWTO.txt

Cheers,

Niki

kikinovak 06-07-2013 04:49 PM

Double post, sorry.

gargamel 06-07-2013 05:58 PM

Haven't tried it, but I think it should be possible to start with installing Slackware 11 and then upgrade. This way you wouldn't need to set up another Linux system.

@all: Is it possible to upgrade from Slackware 11 to Slackware 14 skipping all the releases in between? Personally I think it is, but others may have more experience.

Other option: Instead of setting up another Linux system you might just download an iso image to the hard disk of one of your other systems and then boot a live system from CD on that system. Again, I am not sure, but it should be possible to enable PXE boot this way.

@all: Please correct me, if I am wrong, I have never used PXE in my life...

gargamel

Didier Spaier 06-07-2013 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gargamel (Post 4967444)
@all: Is it possible to upgrade from Slackware 11 to Slackware 14 skipping all the releases in between? Personally I think it is, but others may have more experience.

Theoretically yes, practically it isn't worth the hassle.

@amenos42: go with Alien Bob's suggestion of PXE booting from another machine. That's by far the simplest way to install in your case.

EDDY1 06-07-2013 06:39 PM

All the installation methods posted here are great, but, I have to agree with suggestion in post #5 as your hdd has a door on the side for removal.
I would just purchase a usb enlosure slap the drive in the enclosure.
Plug in to another computer & install from there.
Another option would be to install an OS using wubi-installer which will work in winsxp.


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