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Old 12-07-2012, 09:08 AM   #1
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Has Adobe Abandon Linux?


As an offshoot of another thread that can be found here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ml#post4841496

Jtsn said,

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The Pepper API Flash Player ist maintained by Google. Adobe abandoned Linux completely.
Here is what I've learned on the subject.

Google developed the pepper API.

That it is cross platform and browser independent.

That Adobe doesn't want to support both the NPAPI and Pepper versions of the flash player and they see Pepper as the better of the two APIs.

That Adobe will move forward with Pepper yet will keep the NPAPI version alive for five years to give all browsers time to move over to Pepper.

That once other browsers have implemented Pepper, Adobe will then provide access to the pepper version for general download.

Therefore, it doesn't appear Adobe has abandon Linux.

So, as a question for the "gurus," Does any of this ring true?

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Old 12-07-2012, 10:10 AM   #2
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Can't answer that question, but I think (and hope) that in five years flashplayer will be even less needed.
 
Old 12-07-2012, 10:27 AM   #3
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I would question how much of the work of maintaining the Linux Flash player Adobe has actually outsourced to Google.

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Old 12-07-2012, 10:45 AM   #4
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I seem to get better performance from pepper API than Adobe's Flash. At least that is my perception.
 
Old 12-07-2012, 11:02 AM   #5
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I seem to get better performance from pepper API than Adobe's Flash. At least that is my perception.
That appears to be the case in Linux and you have to use Chrome and, thereofore, pepperflash, with some sites or they won't work at all. However, the standard flashplayer works just fine in ms-windows with the same sites.
 
Old 12-07-2012, 08:12 PM   #6
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I would save they certainly have, aside from providing security updates at least.

From their download page:
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NOTE: Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux as a supported platform. Adobe will continue to provide security backports to Flash Player 11.2 for Linux.
 
Old 12-08-2012, 01:07 PM   #7
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We can learn from their commitment to Solaris. You simply can't get it anymore. You won't be able to get flash anymore for linux soon.
 
Old 12-08-2012, 02:31 PM   #8
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You won't be able to get flash anymore for linux soon.
Which won't drop me a tear.
 
Old 12-08-2012, 02:36 PM   #9
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Say what you will about Apple, I give them massive credit for taking such a strong stand against the existence of Flash. Their victories benefit us.

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Old 12-08-2012, 04:11 PM   #10
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We can learn from their commitment to Solaris. You simply can't get it anymore. You won't be able to get flash anymore for linux soon.
NB: it has never functioned correctly, particularly the camera and sound interface, plus the incredible resource hogging. Linus should have said, Adobe is the single most difficult company to deal with, and **** *** Adobe.
 
Old 12-08-2012, 04:58 PM   #11
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That Adobe will move forward with Pepper yet will keep the NPAPI version alive for five years to give all browsers time to move over to Pepper.
Adobe continues maintaining the NPAPI version for platforms like Windows and provides new versions of the plugin for this platforms. So there is no reason for browser vendors to implement the Pepper API.
 
Old 12-08-2012, 05:00 PM   #12
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I seem to get better performance from pepper API than Adobe's Flash. At least that is my perception.
The PPAPI version of the plugin is newer and provides better hardware acceleration. And of course it is also not broken on nVidia cards (color channel swap bug).

It's just a matter of time when the binary Flash 11.2 will stop working on recent Linux distributions, because the ABI compatibility will become broken (imagine a GLIBC change). The Flash player also still depends on hald, which is unmaintained already.

So Adobe will provide security fixes till 2017, but I doubt, that we are able to run the Flash Player binary on a Linux distribution released in 2017.

So this matter has effectively eliminated browser choice on the Linux platform and restricts one to Google Chrome, the only browser with a maintained Flash Player.

And for the people hoping that Flash is completely going away: Look how the Java plugin did. :-)

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Old 12-08-2012, 05:47 PM   #13
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I do wonder if Pepper will expand to other browsers.
 
Old 12-08-2012, 06:35 PM   #14
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What about Opera?
What do they use for flash?
I, for one, would prefer to user Opera than Chrome.
 
Old 12-08-2012, 07:29 PM   #15
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Say what you will about Apple, I give them massive credit for taking such a strong stand against the existence of Flash. Their victories benefit us.
Agreed. I am hopeful we will be able to put flash behind us in the not too distant future.
 
  


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