HAL and the console

dive · 09-21-2007, 06:05 AM

I mean which automount software are you using?

brodo · 09-21-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dive

I mean which automount software are you using?

Do we understand each other ?
All I have now is well known automounting in X/KDE enviroinment using DBUS/HAL.
It would be fine to have this kind of machinery working in pristine console, fluxbox or xfce too.

T3slider · 09-21-2007, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by brodo

I'd like to automount USB and CDROM/DVD devices for example.
In clean console, without Xorg/KDE.

As said previously you'll need ivman/pmount to do that. As for how to use those utilities, you're on your own as I don't use them.

dive · 09-21-2007, 11:59 PM

or Autofs...

T3slider · 09-22-2007, 10:43 PM

Does autofs use HAL though? If not it seems like overkill to have two different automounting utilities coexisting on one machine. Does autofs affect autmounting using HAL in KDE/XFCE/etc.?

(Normally I would just look this up, but a quick google search didn't help)

MS3FGX · 09-22-2007, 10:48 PM

Autofs considerably pre-dates HAL. Using both would certainly be overkill and likely just cause conflicts.

dive · 09-23-2007, 02:59 AM

No conflicts here. I've been using both for a while now.

MS3FGX · 09-23-2007, 08:10 AM

It is still redundant for mounting removable devices on a HAL-equipped system. HAL is already working for him, he simply needs a HAL client to do the actual mounting. Why introduce another daemon into the equation?

dive · 09-23-2007, 09:47 AM

What other HAL clients are there?

T3slider · 09-23-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dive

What other HAL clients are there?

Um...ivman/pmount? They should theoretically do the job as said many times (although I've never used them).

dive · 09-23-2007, 01:09 PM

But ivman is running as a daemon all the time, the same as Autofs. I guess I should have asked which other clients are there that don't run as a daemon.

I use ivman and autofs but I guess I could use just ivman alone for most of what I do.

iiv · 05-12-2008, 02:40 PM

This is question about mounting from console and not needing to become root or whoever else.

What could be done about mount(8)? Can it be explicitly stated, that every user of any device being a member of plugdev group could mount a device?

Please, do not post that I should add an fstab entry for a device with option "group=plugdev". Because then you will have to add an entry to /dev/every /dev/device /dev/name /dev/there /dev/could /dev/appear.

Thanks.

shadowsnipes · 05-12-2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by iiv

This is question about mounting from console and not needing to become root or whoever else.

What could be done about mount(8)? Can it be explicitly stated, that every user of any device being a member of plugdev group could mount a device?

Please, do not post that I should add an fstab entry for a device with option "group=plugdev". Because then you will have to add an entry to /dev/every /dev/device /dev/name /dev/there /dev/could /dev/appear.

Thanks.

pmount allows any normal user to mount removable devices or those listed under /etc/pmount.allow. This is assuming of course the devices are not already mounted, not locked, not listed in /etc/fstab, etc (see man page for the full policy).

If you use the pmount slackBuild the pmount binary will be SUID with only execute perms for root and the group plugdev.

pmount is just a wrapper around the mount program.

rworkman · 05-12-2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by iiv

This is question about mounting from console and not needing to become root or whoever else.

What could be done about mount(8)? Can it be explicitly stated, that every user of any device being a member of plugdev group could mount a device?

Please, do not post that I should add an fstab entry for a device with option "group=plugdev". Because then you will have to add an entry to /dev/every /dev/device /dev/name /dev/there /dev/could /dev/appear.

I think you're wanting a combination of ivman (a generic hal event handler) and pmount.
I must admit that I have *very* little experience with them, as I've just not seen much need for them, but I'm pretty sure that's what you're wanting.

shadowsnipes · 05-13-2008, 10:09 AM

ivman is only needed if you want a device to be automatically mounted upon insertion. You can have other commands run based upon HAL events as well.

pmount is the program that does the mounting (through mount), so if you are OK with having a user issue a command to mount the device then pmount is all you need.

Edit:
Do note that pmount-hal, which comes with pmount, will automatically detect device information as given be HAL. This just means that you don't necessarily have to enter all the mount options when mounting.