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Old 03-30-2005, 12:37 PM   #1
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GWARE or GSB?


Which is better and why? No "I havn't used either because GNOME is crap" comments please. I'm only interested to hear from people who've used one or the other or both.

What are the pros/cons of one over the other? Seeing as Pat seems to have his reservations about Dropline, and the installer has stopped working, I'm migrating to another GNOME, so I wanna know whichis better.I'm looking for speed, customizability (if that's actually a real word) and stability.

EDIT: And also, GSB or FRG? Is FRG really that much less hastle?

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Old 03-30-2005, 01:32 PM   #2
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I haven't testet both -- but I tried to compile GSB yesterday. I had to notice that neither the first, nor my second partition, I tried to use as /tmp, could hold the required amount of data. It takes many MBs or some GBs I think to compile it from source (and takes long on my computer, that had done I guess the half of the complete compiling).
So for me this means that I will stick with packages as long as it possible. So I will try freerock gnome or the packages from LiNuCe when he publishes some for 2.10, But maybe you have lots of space and the time factor isn't too important for you, or just don't mind having a gentoo feeling ...

Btw, the compile itself worked good with gsb.

Just my
 
Old 03-30-2005, 01:41 PM   #3
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If stability is a major concern I would recommend either Linuce packages or Gware as they are made for the 2.4 kernel series and are for Gnome 2.8.3. The present linuce packages deviate from the typical package naming scheme and do not work well with swaret or slap-get but then Pat does not like automated package management either. I believe Linuce will correct the package naming scheme in the future. I am using Linuce packages and am happy enough that I have not tried the Gware packages.

If you want bleeding edge/ 2.6 kernel series go with GSB for Gnome 2.10.0. I suspect Gnome 2.10 will undergo several more revisions in the near future. If you want everything including the kitchen sink go dropline.

If you survey these forums you will find the majority (90%)of posts regarding the Linuce packages are positive. I have not seen too many post about GSB/Gware. Posts for Dropline tend to be less positive.
 
Old 03-30-2005, 01:53 PM   #4
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Oops, I just see that gware provides packages, not just buildscripts to compile Gnome by yourself. I think that's a sign of getting older, I need more RAM ...

Does anyone know how much harddisk space is required to build a complete Gnome environment (2.5 GB weren't enough with gsb)??
 
Old 03-30-2005, 02:25 PM   #5
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I'm running freerock's frg 2.10 packages on two systems with no problems.

Download the iso, mount via loopback and run the installation script. Apply any updates subsequent to the iso and you're done. Hard to beat that for simplicity.

If only I'd done that BEFORE I tried to compile Gnome 2.10 from source myself. d'oh!
 
Old 03-30-2005, 03:14 PM   #6
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I have to agree with 2Gnu I have installed the frg iso a few times and it works great. Gnome 2.10 looks really good and they include a number of other useful packages with it if you do the full install.
 
Old 03-31-2005, 11:45 AM   #7
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Thanks, that's really helpful...

I found with dropline that it all worked fine, but the keyboard configuration applet was missing (although at the moment I'm more into editing config files... so really its more of a worryabout how well thought out the whole thing is than the fact that I couldn't use it) and when I uninstalled to reinstall, it removed things like abiword which are slack packages, and also the installer's been out for the count for a while... It can't seem to connect to the server! This is less than reassuring, and with Pat letting us know how he feels on the matter, well I'm inclined to agree.

I'm unlikely to compile myself just yet... So I'm quite interested to know which of the package installations is better if I want it to be fairly lightweight (for gnome, anyway) and give me the option NOT to install loads of stupid games and IRC clients and the other crap that seemed to come with Dropline. I want something that I can have with quite a serious weight reduction without having to compile.

Don't ask much, do I?
 
Old 03-31-2005, 12:04 PM   #8
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I recently installed Dropline using the new installer downloaded from their site and it works fine.

What are the differences between Dropline and the others?
 
Old 03-31-2005, 12:32 PM   #9
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Apparently Dropline messes with other settings outside of GNOME more than the others do... And its also reputed to be a lot more heavyweight. I think personally its just that my confidence in Dropline has been thwarted somewhat...

EDIT: I noticed on the FRG screenshots the graphical login... does the install automatically setup graphical login (cos I really don't want it to.)

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Old 03-31-2005, 12:34 PM   #10
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Agree with 2Gnu as well. I've been running Freerock on my computer at work, and inspite of it being "beta", it has been pretty solid for me...and it looks oh-so-good!
 
Old 03-31-2005, 03:54 PM   #11
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is it just me or did I miss where gware and gsb listed which packages they come with ?
 
Old 03-31-2005, 11:28 PM   #12
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ftp://ftp.brownjava.org/pub/frg/frg-...0/PACKAGES.TXT

Go up a level or two to see the update directories for their contents.
 
  


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