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Old 09-02-2004, 12:47 AM   #1
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GRUB (bootloader) hits Slackware mirror


Hi

Change occurred 21Aug2004 for my mirror download site, note that Slackware still has LILO as the default as grub appears in the EXTRA package, but its still a start.....Yippee

When you install it, it offers a kind of GRUBCONFIG for simple installing.
This looks like a fine executable program but does not (yet) suggest anything about INITRD images. It instead offers only append stuff to the kernel line.

At this stage I have failed to see how I can add the PAUSE command etc to get to the next floppy with grubconfig.

If anyone else does please post when it is convenient to do so please, it may help us newbies?


http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/s...ent/extra/grub
 
Old 09-02-2004, 01:19 AM   #2
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Hey great. I used to install grub manually.... but having it with the distro does save that step.
 
Old 09-02-2004, 01:41 AM   #3
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My past experiences with GRUB causes me to hope Patrick doesn't make it the default for the next release. Fingers crossed.
 
Old 09-02-2004, 02:49 AM   #4
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Hmm, have to agree with that, Jimbo - personally I've always felt that lilo is the safer of the two, but I bet you, for every person who's had a bad experience with grub, there is someone who has had a bad experience with lilo!

It'd be nice if the user was given a choice between the two during installation, that satisfies both parties :)
 
Old 09-02-2004, 03:26 AM   #5
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That's something I'd like to see. Instead of the installer installing one or the other as a default, the installer could ask which you'd prefer. Then, if you choose LILO, liloconfig would start. If your choice was GRUB, grubconfig would run.
 
Old 09-02-2004, 03:52 AM   #6
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I've grown up with GRUB since I started out with Red Hat, but I do like how I can fix my mistakes at boot time.

For those of you with problems with GRUB, what kind of problems did you have?
 
Old 09-02-2004, 05:02 AM   #7
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My primary dillema stems from the fact that I've been using LILO for so long that GRUB is like trying to learn a foreign language. Syntax is different. Format varries from what I'm accustomed. GRUB uses a different nomenclature for drives. /dev/hda1 makes more sense to me than hd0,0.
Of course, the only time I've actually tried to manually edit and install GRUB has been the times I've tried to install Gentoo. I screwed that up so much that GRUB was the least of my worries. I think I did anyway. Had I been able to boot past GRUB, I might have discovered the install went fine. I'm probably wrong though.
 
Old 09-02-2004, 12:43 PM   #8
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I knew someone who was installing Gentoo and ran into some grub problems. He learned alot about GRUB error codes that day.
 
Old 09-02-2004, 12:59 PM   #9
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Nothing is more valuable than the grub shell at boot when boot problem occurs, you can even search or cat a file from hd before load any OS.
 
Old 09-04-2004, 10:22 AM   #10
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The thread I started -I thought I was advising Grub was available as a slack tgz and then I thought I asked about a grub config issue.

If anyone of the LILO type is offended by my thread starter, report me, otherwise leave this a post to inform grub users and possible grubconfig users please please.

end of rant
 
Old 09-04-2004, 12:27 PM   #11
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I don't feel anyone is in any way offended by your thread. Just a healthy discussion about why someone would stick with LILO or move over to grub.
 
Old 09-09-2004, 09:39 AM   #12
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cedrik
Nothing is more valuable than the grub shell at boot when boot problem occurs, you can even search or cat a file from hd before load any OS.
Actually, I can think of two things better that a grub shell. (1) A bootable floppy (2) A bootable Slack CD. You can access anything on the system from either one of those. GRUB is just another way of taking the config away from the user and "dummying it down" so people won't have to read a "man lilo.conf". But as long as there is a choice.... right?
 
Old 09-09-2004, 12:04 PM   #13
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right?
Not in my opinion, your suggestion require one floppy drive or one cdrom drive, a floppy or CD rom boot disk.

GRUB is just another way of taking the config away from the user and "dummying it down"
It is obvious that you talk about one thing that you don't know at all.
 
Old 09-09-2004, 12:27 PM   #14
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cedrik
Nothing is more valuable than the grub shell at boot when boot problem occurs, you can even search or cat a file from hd before load any OS.
well...are you able to edit those files, to solve a prob.
if not, what's the use....

( i use lilo , and i like it and. i use Slax as rescue/demo cd )

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Old 09-09-2004, 01:38 PM   #15
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cat was just one example, here are the commands of the grub shell avaiable at boot :
Code:
blocklist FILE                         boot
cat FILE                               chainloader [--force] FILE
clear                                  color NORMAL [HIGHLIGHT]
configfile FILE                        device DRIVE DEVICE
displayapm                             displaymem
find FILENAME                          geometry DRIVE [CYLINDER HEAD SECTOR [
halt [--no-apm]                        help [--all] [PATTERN ...]
hide PARTITION                         initrd FILE [ARG ...]
kernel [--no-mem-option] [--type=TYPE] makeactive
map TO_DRIVE FROM_DRIVE                md5crypt
module FILE [ARG ...]                  modulenounzip FILE [ARG ...]
pager [FLAG]                           partnew PART TYPE START LEN
parttype PART TYPE                     quit
reboot                                 root [DEVICE [HDBIAS]]
rootnoverify [DEVICE [HDBIAS]]         serial [--unit=UNIT] [--port=PORT] [--
setkey [TO_KEY FROM_KEY]               setup [--prefix=DIR] [--stage2=STAGE2_
terminal [--dumb] [--no-echo] [--no-ed terminfo [--name=NAME --cursor-address
testvbe MODE                           unhide PARTITION
uppermem KBYTES                        vbeprobe [MODE]
 
  


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