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Old 10-14-2008, 07:24 AM   #61
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ok, the player should work fine as well (haven't used it for quite a while though).

Here I finally managed to get better resolutions in VMware.
Found out that VMware-server 1.0.7 still includes a driver for XFree86 3.*!

It includes a new "XF86-server" called XF86_VMware, to which the X symbolic link should point.
It also includes a sample XF86Config file so I had it up and running in a couple of minutes.

Now I'm running Slackware 4.0 with KDE 1.1 using a 1024x768 resolution and full-color!

I'll put some screenshots and instructions on my blog later tonight...
 
Old 10-14-2008, 09:41 AM   #62
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Went to the Virtual Appliance Marketplace:
http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/cat/45
to see what's available. Wanted something small to start with, so I chose minix3. There's Arch, Gentoo, Debian, Ubuntu, etc. And, of course, Slackware. The earliest they've got is 10.2. Minix3 documentation is a bit lacking. It's similar to Linux, but different enough in some respects to trip you up.
I'm still going to try that Slackware 8.1 .iso with Qemu sometime shortly.
 
Old 10-14-2008, 10:30 AM   #63
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I have minix 3 installed in a VM. I actually played with minix long before Slackware (or Linux) even existed. You can download the complete CD from their site: http://www.minix3.org/

Interesting material to study.
 
Old 10-14-2008, 11:23 AM   #64
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I have minix3 on CD too - I'd forgotten I downloaded and burnt it months ago - I could try that in Qemu. I don't think the VM version has any WM/DE pre-installed.
 
Old 10-14-2008, 02:54 PM   #65
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I've got 8.1 going OK using Qemu, except for one problem. My mouse has gone wild. Adduser went alright, startx went with no faults or warnings, then the KDE setup wizard came up, with its buttons for region and language, and my mouse pointer went out of control. It was flying about all over the place! Couldn't get it on the buttons to choose anything or skip the wizard. Must need to edit xorg or whatever .conf. Otherwise a lot better than 3.5, once the mouse is tamed. It's a wired optical wheel mouse, a cheap but OK Chinese made one.
 
Old 10-14-2008, 03:00 PM   #66
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How did you configure your mouse in xorg.conf or XF86Config (have no idea which one was used in Slackware 8.1)?
In VMware when I use modern versions of Slackware (11, 12, 12.1) I always configure the PS/2 protocol on /dev/mouse.

Which version of KDE is included in Slackware 8.1?

You can normally check the port / device on the command line with 'cat /dev/mouse'.
Mess around with the mouse and you should see random characters.
If you see nothing, you're using the wrong device.
Go back to the command line with Ctrl-C
 
Old 10-14-2008, 03:12 PM   #67
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It's KDE 3.0.1, and I'll have to edit /etc/XF86Config. It was the speed and sensitivity - the slightest movement of the mouse sent the mouse cursor wild.
 
Old 10-14-2008, 03:29 PM   #68
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Just been reading the Slackware-HOWTO that came with 8.1, and decided to try the easiest way to configure X: running xfree86setup. Doing startx after that gave me a full desktop, but the mouse is still uncontrollable, but not as bad. Progress.
 
Old 10-14-2008, 03:41 PM   #69
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Typing this from Mozilla 1.0 on Slackware 8.1. Whoopeee!!!
==========================================================
And this from Firefox 2.0.0.17 on Slackware 12.1.
8.1 came out in 2002, just about the same time as I became interested in computing, and bought my first with Windows ME.

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Old 10-14-2008, 04:33 PM   #70
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Top (on 12.1) shows CPU use at 9.7% with Qemu + 8.1 running. A big improvement.

I was just Googling Slackware 8.1, and found this LQ thread from 2002:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...-crt1.o-24464/

Tinkster's a real LQ veteran.

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Old 10-14-2008, 07:11 PM   #71
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Hi,
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Can't post the output, but the only relevant figure was the CPU use, Qemu hogging it at 100%. Why don't you join the Aged Slackware Revival Project?
Been there done that!

I've got other things on my plate, plus I still have some older equipment around here that has some of the older Slackware still on it.
 
Old 10-15-2008, 03:59 AM   #72
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plus I still have some older equipment around here that has some of the older Slackware still on it.
Yeah, there's no substitute for the real thing. I'm still kicking myself for not getting into computing long ago.
 
Old 10-15-2008, 05:50 AM   #73
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The problem with 'the real thing' is the space it occupies
I used to have several older computers in a working state, but after my last change of address had to give up most of them.

I kept my 486 laptop with Slackware 4.0 and some old motherboards (from an old 4.77MHz 8088 up to a 90MHz Pentium) with the hope of one day rebuilding something (whenever I move to a bigger house).
So for now I have to satisfy myself with my virtual machines
 
Old 10-15-2008, 06:19 AM   #74
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I need to get my workspace sorted out, get a proper computer desk. My present haphazard arrangement means it's awkward using my laptop & desktop at the same time. Also I've still got that first computer (112 MB RAM, AMD Duron 1.3 GHz) which would be OK for running older setups. Anyway, this virtualisation "project" has given me a chance to experience what I've missed out on in reality. I shall continue to rake up the past.
Thanks, niels, and thanks to Eric for his qemu & kqemu packages and his wiki article:
http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/...slackware:qemu

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Old 10-15-2008, 02:46 PM   #75
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Hi,

That's my problem, too much storage. I've got storage racks with systems that I should have retired out the door years ago. I've got the original 8080 system that I built from scratch. Plus a S-100 system, I could go on about the equipment. I should build a DB to keep track.

Yes, virtualization allows a lot of experimentation and development without the need for the real thing. Sure the final is generally checked out on real equipment but the investment is not required as it used to be.

It really sounds like you guys are having fun. Keep it up!
 
  


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