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Old 10-11-2012, 10:02 PM   #31
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Like jtsn, I have been using Opera since it was first released to the public (v. 3.x). Its performance and rich feature-set has earned my loyalty.

I find Mozilla's version merry-go-round mildly silly.
 
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:11 PM   #32
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I find Mozilla's version merry-go-round mildly silly.
True.
Opera is very nice and if it was open source I would feel more comfortable using it on a full time basis. Firefox is kind of like that crazy significant other that you cannot get away from. I'm stuck with it for the time being.
 
Old 10-11-2012, 10:11 PM   #33
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I really do quite like Opera. However, something always brings me back to Firefox. Atm it's a few pages that render a bit wrong. I also feel funny using Thunderbird + Opera. The Opera mail client is great, however it doesn't have the lightning calendar extension..
 
Old 10-12-2012, 12:05 AM   #34
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I also feel funny using Thunderbird + Opera.
This problem will be solved soon:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07...nderbird_dead/
 
Old 10-12-2012, 03:08 AM   #35
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Pretty soon, mozilla will commit suicide ... that's why I have to find another browser. I think Google may be behind it.
 
Old 10-12-2012, 06:40 AM   #36
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Hi,

Possibly got it right this time;
Quote:
From x86_64 -current changelog;
Thu Oct 11 21:25:20 UTC 2012
xap/mozilla-firefox-16.0.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
This update fixes a security vulnerability that could allow a malicious
site to potentially determine which websites users have visited and have
access to the URL or URL parameters.
(* Security fix *)
xap/mozilla-thunderbird-16.0.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
This release contains security fixes and improvements.
For more information, see:
http://www.mozilla.org/security/know...underbird.html
(* Security fix *)
+--------------------------+
Thu Oct 11 01:14:57 UTC 2012
n/bind-9.9.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
Fixes these security issues:
A certain combination of records in the RBT could cause named to hang
while populating the additional section of a response. [RT #31090]
Named could die on specially crafted record. [RT #30416]
(* Security fix *)
n/iptables-1.4.14-x86_64-2.txz: Rebuilt.
Patched to fix a compiler related bug in iptables-restore.
Thanks to linuxxer for the report and David Somero for a link to the patch.
n/rp-pppoe-3.11-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
Moved from /testing.
+--------------------------+
Wed Oct 10 03:06:03 UTC 2012
xap/mozilla-firefox-16.0-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
This release contains security fixes and improvements.
For more information, see:
http://www.mozilla.org/security/know...s/firefox.html
(* Security fix *)
+--------------------------+
 
Old 10-12-2012, 07:07 AM   #37
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Seriously guys, I don't get it. Some of you don't like Firefox, for whatever reasons, be it the version number thing, the security holes or it being a resource hog. That is totally OK, but why bitching around about it? What is the point of that? Either change the browser or try to make it better. It is open source, if you think it needs to be improved than help with it. There is absolutely no point in complaining on a forum about the things you don't like but then using it anyways.

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This problem will be solved soon:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07...nderbird_dead/
FUD. Thunderbird is not dead, the focus has just shifted. It is considered to be (almost) feature complete, so Mozilla shifted its focus away from it in favor for other projects. That does not mean that it is abandoned, they have a community that is developing it further.
 
Old 10-12-2012, 07:34 AM   #38
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Hi,

I really see no issues with FF or T-Bird from my personal views. Yet to see any project that does not need improvements in some way. I happen to use both on different platforms.

People will complain or have a personal view about any subject. Some just like to pile on!

I just consider the source when reading posts here at LQ.
 
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Old 10-12-2012, 08:40 AM   #39
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I think Google may be behind it.
Man, I hope so!
 
Old 10-12-2012, 09:20 AM   #40
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Firefox is still the best option, and Mozilla certainly fixed this quick. Google are paying them millions every year, so I'm not sure they want to destroy Mozilla.
 
Old 10-12-2012, 09:25 AM   #41
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Hi,

Possibly got it right this time;
I reported this on page two of this thread.
My apologies if you found my comments offensive(they were meant in jest). Many thanks to Mr. Volkerding for speedily uploading the latest FF security fix!
 
Old 10-12-2012, 09:55 AM   #42
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Firefox is still the best option, and Mozilla certainly fixed this quick. Google are paying them millions every year, so I'm not sure they want to destroy Mozilla.
Yes, because they pay them, they will dance to whatever music is played, even if it means their doom. They want to make room for Chrome.

I am switching to Firefox ESR, maybe it will be better.
 
Old 10-12-2012, 10:07 AM   #43
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Yes, because they pay them, they will dance to whatever music is played, even if it means their doom. They want to make room for Chrome.
Any evidences for that?
 
Old 10-12-2012, 10:26 AM   #44
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Like jtsn, I have been using Opera since it was first released to the public (v. 3.x). Its performance and rich feature-set has earned my loyalty.

I find Mozilla's version merry-go-round mildly silly.
+1.
I use to buy every new release of Opera (back in the "good old days") and have been using it since it all fit on a single 1.44 meg., 3 1/2" floppy disk.
I guess it is a matter of what you are comfortable with using.
 
Old 10-12-2012, 10:26 AM   #45
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Any evidences for that?
Yes, the ones presented in this very thread, as well as other clues.

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Mozilla shifted to a six-week rapid release cycle for Firefox earlier this year to keep up with the pace of Google Chrome releases. But the change proved untenable for large corporate users of Firefox, such as IBM, who couldn't test and validate Firefox releases before a new version had been released and support for the old version had been dropped.
To make matters worse, statements from Mozilla employees suggested that enterprise concerns were not a priority, a gaffe that Microsoft immediately pounced on.
http://www.informationweek.com/softw...hang/231602080

Mozilla is making itself look bad by ignoring enterprise (and I would say stability) concerns, while supposedly trying to keep up with the Chrome release schedule for no apparent reason.

What improves with each new release of Firefox ? Nothing. They mess with the UI a bit, things that I have to disable and reverse. They release security fixes, but often there are security flaws with those fixes, as seen here.

This all started with them trying to emulate Chrome for no apparent reason. Why would people need more than one Chrome ? Why does everyone have to be like Chrome ? Wouldn't they been better of just doing what they were doing for a very long time ? I think they would have, but someone make them change their mind all of a sudden. You think I have inside info on the deal ? No, and if I did, I doubt I would release it, nobody would believe it anyway.
 
  


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