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Old 03-30-2005, 04:22 PM   #16
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So far so good, my machine has been up all day without a crash (knock on wood). I've actually been trying to crash it and nothing so far. I compiled it last night at 5am. I'm going to try running the NVIDIA drivers now.

BenneJezzerette; I have some questions for you.

1. What cant you make work right in the 2.6.11.6 kernel?
2. Cfdisk is for partitioning, not formatting. Doesnt it ask you if you want to format the drive after you enter slack setup?
3. Ive noticed on my system that KDE and GNOME run at about the same speed but I notice a huge speed increase when using fluxbox, fvwm2 or even Xfce4. How fast is your processor?
 
Old 03-30-2005, 06:08 PM   #17
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So far so good, my machine has been up all day without a crash (knock on wood). I've actually been trying to crash it and nothing so far. I compiled it last night at 5am. I'm going to try running the NVIDIA drivers now.

BenneJezzerette; I have some questions for you.

1. What cant you make work right in the 2.6.11.6 kernel?
2. Cfdisk is for partitioning, not formatting. Doesnt it ask you if you want to format the drive after you enter slack setup?
3. Ive noticed on my system that KDE and GNOME run at about the same speed but I notice a huge speed increase when using fluxbox, fvwm2 or even Xfce4. How fast is your processor?
1: Probably some settings that I have tried and can't seem to get fixed, also some gcc version errors as it states in the readme file. Who knows other than I know I put in some things that I probably should not have.
2:cfdisk is the creat a new or delete an old partion, or creating a set of partitions. If a drive is only Prepared to put data on it, it has to be formatted to allow data to be written.
3: KDE is far superior to GNome and The slack dev is looking to drop Gnome Desktop, and says that you can get a slack with it from anotehr source. I will stay with KDE 3.4.0, and it's my fave out of them all.

The other window Managers are not as feature rich. But with them all trying them out, KDE seemed to run faster then all of them. At least on this system.

Ok, system:

AMD K6-2 500
256MB
nVidia GeForce 2 MX 400 64MB
EIDE Seagate 30GB HDD
WD 4001 3.8GB DOS formt.
DFI Main Board K6BV3+ Rev A+ 2X AGP Slot

Someone was supposed to trade me for something and send me 768MB of ram as that is the max for this system.
I have an AHA 2940UW/160 68 Pin SCSI card that I would like to use, rther than IDE as it is faster and more reliable. Well I am waiting for a box that, my sweetie says he is sending, so I don't know what's in it, but I requested a Hitachi UW SCSI 68 Pin Drive 74GB. Then I can get rid of this IDE garbage.

I have been unemployed for so long now, and would love to get a Biostar MN7CD AMD Athalon 2600+ and 1GB of RAM, then at least the peripherals I have would work to th fullest benefits they can. Anyway be good and have fun with the new kernel, someday I will be able to make it work.
 
Old 03-31-2005, 02:04 AM   #18
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1 freeze so far.......it doesnt seem AS bad as before. Still have some work to do though.

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BenneJezzerette - You can't tell me kde is faster than fluxbox or fvwm, especially on an older system. Yes, it's easier to use but c'mon.

Last edited by granth; 03-31-2005 at 02:10 AM.
 
Old 03-31-2005, 12:52 PM   #19
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1 freeze so far.......it doesnt seem AS bad as before. Still have some work to do though.

#edit
BenneJezzerette - You can't tell me kde is faster than fluxbox or fvwm, especially on an older system. Yes, it's easier to use but c'mon.
Ok here goes.

I had a crash, I explained this in other places, but this crashed, Kernel related. Now Fluxbox is good, but does not suitr my needs, fvwm is ok too, but does not meet my neeeds.

now. In the crash I tried to istall with out Gnu, and it crashed, and I tried to F-Disk and it wouldn't. So 98SE Boot disk and it was finally clean. Full install again. But loded KDE to FTP KDE 3.4.0 again and Firefox and Thunderbird. Test #1 after getting KDE and FF/TB ran pkgtool, and removed KDE, and other indicies of KDE. Deleted Mozilla Suite and Netscape, No need for them using TB/FF. Then ran xwmconfig and made gnu the desktop. Well it took on this machine, approximately 4 minutes for gnu to be up and running. Then deleted the /.kde in the hidden area of the root. That was the reason to load gnu. Painfully slow. after than logged out of gnu, then went to the dl directory and ran installpkg *.tgz and installed all the KDE packages. Then ran xwmconfig again and made KDE the default. "Up and running in 2 minutes even with a new setting run. Tell me this real in house test is wrong. I have a timer that I just got curious about how long it takes.

the other window managers are good for what they are. They make Linux easier for everyone, as do all the window managers. With that, thta is why this, with Linux and the window manager of choice, makes this the Real PC or Personal Computer. With M$, you get what they want you to have. Not a lot of choice. Not very personal. You use Windowmaker or fluxbox or what you want. It works for you, for me KDE works the way I want.

Fortunatley if I leave well enough alone, I can run and run and run and not have to worry. I did notice int he latest encarnation of the Linux 2.6.11.6 that they took out the IPv6, and a few other things. I think they are debugging it a lot. I posted the .config on the kerneltrap.org site and got blasted for posting it, yet the person blasting me said not to post the makeconfig, well I didn't, I posted the /.config and want help making sure I did this right, so I don't have to go through reformatting this drive a 6th time in 2 and 1/2 weeks. So far each time I let everything just work and don't mess with teh kernel, this system works just like it should.

Use Linux it's all the same. Use the Desktop of choice to make Linux better for you. What works for me, may not be for you. That is what makes Linuix so nice, you can have it your way and I can have it mine, and it is still Linux.
 
Old 04-01-2005, 12:54 PM   #20
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crashing, freezing, locking up......even when i use the vanilla 2.4 kernel.

Time to say goodbye hard drive!!!
 
Old 04-01-2005, 01:43 PM   #21
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crashing, freezing, locking up......even when i use the vanilla 2.4 kernel.

Time to say goodbye hard drive!!!
Oh!!! No!!!!!!!!

That is not good. Yet do you have a secondary there to backup the data??? I hope so, that is how I kept my files when I had to reinstall Slack,. I got the 2.6.11.6 to work 96% and will be working out the bugs over the day to make it work. Nic issues, Console diplay issues, Sound, so will be working out that and hope to get it working or just stick with the Pre compiled 2.4.29 that slack installs by default.

One note: I use the reiserjfs format for my drive, are you using ext2 or 3? Suggests you do the reiserjfs as it has been the most stable for me. Be wel and good luck on fixing the problems.
 
Old 04-02-2005, 02:47 AM   #22
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Its not my kernel that is crashing, it's the nvidia drivers. I have a mix between ext2, resiserjfs, and vfat partitions. Im really considering freebsd with fvwm now.
 
Old 04-02-2005, 04:00 AM   #23
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Its not my kernel that is crashing, it's the nvidia drivers. I have a mix between ext2, resiserjfs, and vfat partitions. Im really considering freebsd with fvwm now.
Ok well I have a fix for it. Reinstall Slackware then before you run startx, run xorgsetup and let the video setup that way. Then if you have a scroll mouse use the IMPS/2 and in the options add Option "AZaxisMapping" "4 5" so it scrolls. to do that use pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for the mouse properties there. then control x and save yes. then startx this will get you all your settings back and no more crashes, I had the nVidia drivers and they kept crashing KDE so took all that off and redid the system got that little trick and now am 1400x1050 24bit color or true color. No nVidia Drivers and it just flies ever so micely.
 
Old 04-04-2005, 08:48 PM   #24
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My freezes where exactly like you describe; locked the whole thing up not even <ctl> <alt> <del> would bail me out

A Firefox version that I had compiled on Slackware with Gnome 2.8 was freezing the screen on a second light weight, machine that I was using Icewm. I attempted to recompile firefox with the gtk2 libs (no gnome) on the second machine and it gave an error about missing some imlibs (sorry I did not write down the exact libs)
I remove gtk2 from my .mozconfig and it compiled fine and the freezing stopped

I am guessing that you are missing some lib for the version of firefox that you are using..
 
Old 04-04-2005, 09:06 PM   #25
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My freezes where exactly like you describe; locked the whole thing up not even <ctl> <alt> <del> would bail me out

A Firefox version that I had compiled on Slackware with Gnome 2.8 was freezing the screen on a second light weight, machine that I was using Icewm. I attempted to recompile firefox with the gtk2 libs (no gnome) on the second machine and it gave an error about missing some imlibs (sorry I did not write down the exact libs)
I remove gtk2 from my .mozconfig and it compiled fine and the freezing stopped

I am guessing that you are missing some lib for the version of firefox that you are using..
No I get the nightlies off the ftp site for mozilla using gFTP. If it gets interrupted, I can just resume it. I use the Installers to make sure they work. The one thing I have found is they are Gnome instlalers so unless you know what file to add to the menu, they are not even put on a menu for KDE. I prefer KDE as I did a test, and KDE seems to run 3 minutes faster than the Gnome I have.

One day I will begin Writing firefox info and program it too,. and I am updating the GTK and GLibs and GCC and all right now from the slackware site. So maybe you might consider it too. That could be what the problem is. an older GCC and GTK libs.
 
  


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