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Old 09-18-2013, 08:59 AM   #106
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It's a sad fact that many GPL projects suffer from the fact developers get egotistical, uncaring, or downright lazy and refuse to listen to their users, and say stuff like, "if you want it, learn C++, and add it in yourself, otherwise, piss off".
It's worse than that. Try adding your code even if you know some C/C++.
 
Old 09-18-2013, 10:25 AM   #107
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When the developers of a filesystem state that it is not stable I tend to believe them. From the help text for BTRFS in the kernel configuration:

Just got a new SSD for my laptop (the older 40GB SSD simply is to small) and used the chance to give JFS a try on it, hope that works out well, but until now no problems at all.
Not any more.

 
Old 09-18-2013, 11:17 AM   #108
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Not any more.
Then they should change that in the help text of the kernel config.
 
Old 09-18-2013, 08:49 PM   #109
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It's worse than that. Try adding your code even if you know some C/C++.
I know exactly what you mean.

The SNES emulator ZSnes used to be a fairly decent pick amongst emulators in the retro-gaming community, but after several versions passed without the CVS/SVN being updated, we all kinda saw what was going on. Bugs were being ignored in favor of useless candy features, any good changes people wanted to submit or ask about got a heavy handed slap in the face, or the developers wanted money or donations to add certain features that would be private meaning no source code would be published which was a direct violation of the GPL which stated any changed made have to be publicly shown. Some people who asked about features to fix things got banned from their forums, their forum names changed to make fun of them, and then they were made fun of regularly and ridiculed by the developers.

It didn't take long sadly before ZSnes got tossed in the trash even by it's own developers and the source code was relicensed out of GPL to a private license and the SVN/CVS code was dumped and taken offline for private development which has not produced one ounce of new code or updates since it's last incarnation on Sourceforge. A few of the staff that still run the forums "claim" the project is being worked on, but the only proof positive SVN they have, leads to a password protected SVN that is not public.

This is proof positive that forking projects often is the best way to go to achieve goals when developers end up being nothing but ass-hats.

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Old 09-18-2013, 09:02 PM   #110
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Bingo. Welcome to the dark ugly imperfect side of GPL.

It's a sad fact that many GPL projects suffer from the fact developers get egotistical, uncaring, or downright lazy and refuse to listen to their users, and say stuff like, "if you want it, learn C++, and add it in yourself, otherwise, piss off".
I can't see how that in any way is related to the license, you will find this type of developers anywhere.
 
Old 09-19-2013, 12:17 AM   #111
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Actually, in a way it can be a perfect example of how things get held up not only by licenses, but by developers as well with agendas.

The dark side of the GPL basically is what it is. The ugly truth, few would want to attest to, much less admit to.

However, as stated the lighter side of open source is where projects can be forked effectively, or maybe even re-licensed eventually under different leadership of projects.

It seems vague in reading at first, but it's spot on accurate.
 
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Actually, in a way it can be a perfect example of how things get held up not only by licenses, but by developers as well with agendas.
This can happen in any open source project and is not tied to the GPL. But that is the bright side of open source, if you don't like the direction the developers take then fork. Example: Gnome, with several forks.
 
  


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