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Old 09-17-2013, 11:40 AM   #61
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Remember, LQ has an app on the Google Play store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...d_114&hl=en_GB

Works fine on my phone and tablet.
 
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Old 09-17-2013, 01:24 PM   #62
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Remember, LQ has an app on the Google Play store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...d_114&hl=en_GB

Works fine on my phone and tablet.
That app looks real slick. Too bad I still own a Symbian.

Regards.
 
Old 09-17-2013, 01:30 PM   #63
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Too bad I still own a Symbian.
See ? You give a point to the OP... Slackers are stuck to old tech from last century !

...Just kidding...
 
Old 09-17-2013, 03:44 PM   #64
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If it doesn't have toggle switches and 7-segment LEDs on the front panel then it's not a proper computer.
 
Old 09-17-2013, 05:07 PM   #65
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Just dropping by to say that "smartphones and tablets are not proper computers" to work on if you're in IT (in my opinion). Working as a developer that needs to code/maintain heaps of code, admin that connects to 20 servers or a DBA that needs to go through that 5 page query and its explain plan or that architect that's trying to see as much detail in the 500 entity ER diagram he just approved.

.. and from user's side viewing pdf files, spreadsheets, working with 3D modeling, BI reports, the larger the screen the more detail you can see without memorizing past screens the more you get done; and the more comfortable your input devices the smaller the chance of long term injuries.

I'm typing this on a full size comfortable keyboard, and looking at a 32" monitor without squinting my eyes.

BTW I'm also thankful to everyone who helped me with Slackware on here between 2002 and 2007 when I used it. I still like it, but I've been distro hopping since then. Slackware teaches you alot, and once you learn to install software from source, and know what the linux directory structure is for you can ./configure && make && make install any software on any distro if you need to .. they are all linux

Cheers and good luck on your journeys.

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Old 09-17-2013, 05:22 PM   #66
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I always struggle with these new-fangled touch screens. Must be my old-fangled fingers, I've had the same ones for over 68 years now. Have to get some new ones from somewhere.
 
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:21 AM   #67
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Seems unnecessarily personal...
... and conveniently snipping out the rest of that paragraph just to divert to that point.

Take it what you will, it is fine if you think it personal (it certainly affected you too, no?) My point still stands: if you don't like the heat, either do something to cool down, or get out quietly; it is usually better to do both and come back with something that helps everybody, rather than going out noisily and whining like everyone else in the world is out for blood.
 
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:42 AM   #68
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... and conveniently snipping out the rest of that paragraph just to divert to that point.
Nope, I made it very clear that it was a partial quote and that was the start of your post, so I don't view that as selective quoting or 'snipping'. Perhaps I should have posted a full quote - would it have made any difference?
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Take it what you will, it is fine if you think it personal (it certainly affected you too, no?)
I find members seemingly queuing up to kick an outgoing member, distasteful - that's why I responded. No other reason.
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My point still stands: if you don't like the heat, either do something to cool down, or get out quietly; it is usually better to do both and come back with something that helps everybody, rather than going out noisily and whining like everyone else in the world is out for blood.
That seems like a better way of putting it. And didn't I say something along similar lines?



//edit: @zakame: I admit I'm coming across as a little "holier than thou", that's not my intention - I must admit that I find this forum "difficult" at times...

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Old 09-20-2013, 07:34 AM   #69
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since we are in a meme mood...
roflol !!!!
 
Old 09-20-2013, 07:37 AM   #70
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I find members seemingly queuing up to kick an outgoing member, distasteful - that's why I responded. No other reason.
Many people find some things distasteful but some people take things a little to far and interject for no real reason apart from making their voices heard. If people took the time to read and think about their response maybe Slackware (or even the various Debian forums, just as examples) would be much nicer places to be. There are many instances in every forum, where people make comments that some find distasteful, some people ignore it while others join in and get a fight going. Ottavio has said his goodbyes, is there still a need for you boys to fight over it?

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Old 09-20-2013, 07:40 AM   #71
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Slackware is and will always be a modern operating system. But then, probably my judgement is biased, because my whole computer experience started on an 8080 processor.
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Old 09-21-2013, 03:57 AM   #72
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Ottavio's timeframe for PCs (to run Slackware on) dying out was 5 years. Not 20.
PCs capable of running an OS of your choice are dying out right at this moment. The current Wintel platform on sale is cryptographically locked down from the start. It's already a real hassle to boot anything other than the pre-installed Windows 8 on a PC from the shelf, even Windows 7!

It will take less than 5 years, before Microsoft completely locks any OS competitor out of "their" hardware platform. And they will be allowed to do that, once they lost their dominating market position and are not subject to anti-competition laws anymore. People will stop buying that stuff (they already do), because a locked-down MS ecosystem is not very attractive, and finally the PC is gone.

We may see new open hardware concepts in spirit of the Apple II/PC of the 80s, but they will most likely be ARM-based niche products.

BTW: The very popular Raspberry Pi is not open, the whole SoC is under NDA.
 
Old 09-21-2013, 04:09 AM   #73
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In the QuakeCon keynote that happened (I think) less than a month ago, John Carmack said: "PC gaming rig culture is not going away."
The next generation consoles are merely completely locked-down PCs running Windows 7 Embedded and FreeBSD 9.

The PC gaming mass market that is now happening on stock Wintel-PCs will shift to the "mobile" platforms (and they will become less mobile and more powerful to accommodate that). So the future of gaming in this respect surely is Linux. But on regular PCs running the "Free Desktop"? I don't think so.
 
Old 09-21-2013, 04:11 AM   #74
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PCs capable of running an OS of your choice are dying out right at this moment. The current Wintel platform on sale is cryptographically locked down from the start. It's already a real hassle to boot anything other than the pre-installed Windows 8 on a PC from the shelf, even Windows 7!
I'll admit I have not tried to do this but as far as the specifications go the only change when installing Linux should be disabling Secure Boot. Do you know of other problems?
Dual-boot, of course, is harder but that is being addressed and if anything ought to be easier in 5 years once people have more experience.
 
Old 09-21-2013, 04:24 AM   #75
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I'll admit I have not tried to do this but as far as the specifications go the only change when installing Linux should be disabling Secure Boot. Do you know of other problems?
And this "disabling Secure Boot" already is a tedious usually undocumented process, different on each machine. That's why all major OS vendors are already looking into booting with Secure Boot enabled. Once that works, MS hardware partners will remove that "unneeded" Disable-Option and your "free choice" is gone. By then the hardware will only boot Linux distributions, if MS signs their kernel. Finally "Other OS" will go away completely, just like it did on Sony Playstation 3.

Well, MS will not be successful on the mass market with this strategy. But they will kill the complete PC platform.

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